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Re: Urban Legend (was RE: Type R availability)

To: "Whitney" <whitneys@mindspring.com>, "Bret Dodson" <bret@serv.net>,
Subject: Re: Urban Legend (was RE: Type R availability)
From: "Joe Goeke" <joe_goeke@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:28:03 -0800
Yeah, but there were only about three 94 models in trophies that year.  The
rest were 93- cars and other hot C stock cars.  In other words, not enough
94+ cars to know or not.
---JCG

-----Original Message-----
From: Whitney <whitneys@mindspring.com>
To: Bret Dodson <bret@serv.net>; team.net <autox@autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Urban Legend (was RE: Type R availability)


>I managed 11th (last trophy spot) in 94 in a C-pkg 94 miata, in my first
>year of RWD, so it can be done.
>
>Stan
>
>
>
>At 05:26 PM 2/9/99 -0800, Bret Dodson wrote:
>>This is not related to the Integra Type R at all, but is now Miata R
>>related.  I spouted some pedantry stating that the conventional wisdom in
>>Miata-land is that R models are pretty much needed to do well nationally.
>>I believe Mr. Raymond is campaigning a non-Sport package '99, so we'll
>>have to see if the same theory applies to the second generation cars.
>>
>>At any rate, I stated that there are stories of non-R Miatas trphying at
>>national events, but that this was so rare as to be likened to urban
>>legend.
>>
>>To which Darrin Disimo replied:
>>>
>>> I just want to set the record straight.  An 'R Miata is not required
>>> to trophy. There have been a few who have trophied at Nationals in a
>>> non-R Miata.
>>
>>Really?  I noticed a few non-R Miatas in Topeka, but don't recall if any
>>of the trophy winners were not R's.
>>
>>I then pontificated a bunch of production figures and my thoughts on the
>>Type R imbroglio.  Mr. DiSimo closes with:
>>
>>> Remember, there are a fair number of Miata's in BS that are not R
models.
>>> And a good number are pretty competitive.
>>
>>Who?  I'm genuinely curious.  I've experienced alot of apprehension from
>>other members of the Miata flock when I ever suggest doing something
>>different.
>>
>>I have a buddy with a non-R Miata (actually it's a C-package luxo miata)
>>set up nearly identically to mine except for his power steering.  I can
>>make his car go almost as fast as mine, never faster. I've been curious to
>>try out a "normal" Miata without power steering to see how it would
>>compare to my R model.
>>
>>Who are these fast guys with non-R Miatae and what type of cars are they
>>driving?  I'd love to be able to show members of the local Miata club that
>>they can be competitive with their non-R Miatas.
>>
>>regards,
>>Bret Dodson
>>'96 Miata R (definitely faster than my '92 - though the '92 was noticably
>>more nimble)
>>Seattle, WA
>>
>>


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