I'd also have to agree that in a typical autocross situation, you really
don't have any time to react. When I used to autocross Sweat Pea (a DSP
Rabbit,) I got it up onto two wheels at a local event. The way in which it
happened was similar to what both Brian and Jay are talking about. There
was also a bump in the surface when it started.
I wasn't aware that I was on two wheels until I came down. Fortunately for
me, the course was straightening out at the same time that I went up, so the
car didn't have the extra help of keeping the wheels turned. it was the
right wheels that were off the ground.
I've had the shakes before after a good run, but the shakes I had after this
run (fortunately it happened right before the finish) were a little more
unbearable!
Ron Bauer
Team Butt Heat
'98 Acura Integra Type R (with buttheat soon!)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Mitchell <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
To: Brian Priebe <priebe.4@osu.edu>; autox@autox.team.net
<autox@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: two wheelin
>Brian said:
>
>>My experience of being on two wheels, that one time, was that
>you have
>>no time to react that you are on two wheels. I realized when I
>hit the
>>ground that I was on two.
>
>
>That was my experience exactly. I'd guess that available reaction
>time would depend on the specifics of the situation, but when I
>rolled my GTI there was no time to react.
>
>>I was chasing the rearend all through
>>a bunch of offsets that led to a quick 90 degree turn. Once I
>turned
>>the wheel left for the 90 degree turn, the rear stopped sliding
>and just
>>hooked.
>
>This describes my experience almost perfectly. My incident
>happened at the Meridian airport (where the Tour is going to be
>held) in December 1993.
>
> > There was an asphalt change there, but nothing that I thought
>>was a big deal walking the course ( meaning no abrupt bumps or
>layer
>>differences). I just remember when the rearend slopped sliding
>it got
>>quiet.
>
>
>In my case, when the rear stopped sliding, the horizon began a
>VERY rapid rotation.
>
> >I was also told it was like the left rear was trying to flip to
>the front
>>right corner.
>
>I heard exactly the same description of my rollover. A nearby
>corner worker said that it looked like a catapult had been
>released under the left rear tire. The car rolled diagonally, and
>the first sheetmetal to hit the pavement was the right front
>fender.
>
>> I was just lucky I was turning left instead of right.
>
>I was turning left also, and I was not so lucky. =8<0
>
>>Without driver my neon was 100 lbs heavier on the left side.
>
>I believe the GTI is heavier on the right side without the
>driver. Maybe that's why it went over.
>
>>I also feel course designs should be designed counter-clockwise
>due to
>>having the driver less prone to being able to flip a car.
>
>I agree that course designers should try to minimize possible
>rollover situations, but it's not possible to entirely eliminate
>rollovers through course design.
>
>Jay Mitchell
>
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>
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