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Regarding the high rpm issue, while indeed the issue may be the carbs in wh=
ich case just discard this reply. In the case of my '75, the cause of a 200=
0 rpm idle turned out to be worn springs on the distributor or maybe it was=
just nasty inside. When all other remedies failed and it was obvious that =
the distributor was at issue, I sent it off or rebuild and it now idles per=
fectly.
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Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 13:30:16 -0600 (MDT)
From: COLIN THOM <colinthom@shaw.ca>
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] High RPM, won't come down
Glenn=20
Your high RPM is likely caused by a few things occurring at once. The pisto=
ns hanging up in a high position will certainly do it. That lets more fuel =
into the carb throat. The throttle shaft seals are probably worn so the car=
bs are sucking in air from there. Add the extra fuel to that extra air, and=
there's your problem. Changing the o-rings in the pistons is a must-do but=
get ready for a rebuild. The rebuild kit includes new bushings for the thr=
ottle shafts. I've never done it, but I've wondered if spraying some white =
grease onto the throttle shafts where they enter/exit the carb body might t=
emporarily seal the air leak caused by worn seals, or even better, cause th=
e seals to expand a bit. Might be worth a shot.=20
Colin=20
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Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 12:20:19 -0700=20
From: Glenn Rattmann <k6na@cts.com>=20
To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20
Subject: [6pack] high RPM, won't come down=20
Gents,=20
The car is 74.5 with stock Strombergs (175 CD-2 SE) and stock engine, .=20
The last carb rebuild by me was probably 2002, but maybe only 4,000=20
miles since then. My occasional driver; it has about 105k miles on=20
it. The car had one DPO, he did a valve job at aroung 75k=20
miles. I'm certain carb shaft bushings were never re-done.=20
Problem is-- Engine hot, after a few minutes of stopandgo driving, I=20
might reach say 3500 RPM in normal shift sequences. When I let off=20
the throttle during shifting, or want to decelerate, the RPM=20
sometimes stays at the high peak-- like 3500! A few frantic kicks of=20
the pedal will "usually" bring things down to normal idle-- but it's=20
dicey. There is no stumble on acceleration.=20
I have inspected the action of the pedal/carb linkage when car is at=20
rest, and nothing there seems amiss. So I don't think the linkage is=20
hanging up somewhere (externally).=20
Dashpots are losing oil 'too quickly' and I always have to top them=20
up after the car sits for extended periods (weeks) following, say, a=20
90 mile drive. Yesterday I pulled the air cleaner for a look, and=20
noticed both carbs have oily gunk on the piston and the contact area=20
of the carb bottom interface The rear one is worse than the front=20
one. Not much doubt that the bypassing oil is responsible for the=20
gunk-- but can the gunk be the cause of the symptom?=20
After some carb cleaner spray, and cleaning out the reachable areas,=20
and adding some oil, I notice the pistons lift normally, falling with=20
a normal 'click' . Prior to the cleaning, the pistons didn't fall=20
normally, but were hanging up slightly when falling.=20
I pulled the carb tops and lifted out the=20
diaphragm/piston/needle. The diaphragms seem ok to me (no obvious=20
tears or cracks) and the alignment tab was correct. I suppose=20
"pinholes" could be there, but not visible...? Pistons look fine,=20
the needles are straight and move correctly against their spring=20
action internally.=20
I have some spare o-rings for the dashpot oil chambers so today I=20
will install them. Could the leaking oil and subsequent gunk I=20
mentioned be the cause of the throttle staying high, as=20
described? If so, then the cleaning plus adding the new o-ring on=20
each dashpot should eliminate the problem. Any comments appreciated.=20
I'm aware that anything beyond this procedure (relatively easy, carbs=20
remain on car) will likely require pulling the carbs . Then we are=20
looking at things like butterfly hang-up... float behavior...float=20
valve... bypass valves... and so on, right?=20
Who sells the best quality float assembly replacement? And which=20
vendor's carb rebuild kits are "best", which partly means "they=20
include the dashpot o-ring" as they should. ISTR years ago, some=20
kits didn't have that o-ring.=20
Thanks,=20
Glenn/San Diego=20
74.5=20
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:41:48 -0400=20
From: alan salvatore <alansalvy@gmail.com>=20
To: "otral@juno.com" <otral@juno.com>=20
Cc: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] Damaged top=20
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If it was just a tear in the vinyl you could put a patch behind it.=20
With the window separating, I guess I would toss it and buy new.=20
Al=20
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> Note: my cracks are at the fold ( passenger side window) that include=20
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> tear in the vinyl top at the fold.=20
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high RPM is likely caused by a few things occurring at once. The pistons h=
anging up in a high position will certainly do it. That lets more fuel into=
the carb throat. The throttle shaft seals are probably worn so the carbs a=
re sucking in air from there. Add the extra fuel to that extra air, and the=
re's your problem. Changing the o-rings in the pistons is a must-do but get=
ready for a rebuild. The rebuild kit includes new bushings for the throttl=
e shafts. I've never done it, but I've wondered if spraying some white grea=
se onto the throttle shafts where they enter/exit the carb body might tempo=
rarily seal the air leak caused by worn seals, or even better, cause the se=
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a@cts.com">k6na@cts.com</a>> <br>To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.te=
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charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed <br><br>Gents, <br>The car is 74.5 wi=
th stock Strombergs (175 CD-2 SE) and stock engine, . <br>The last carb reb=
uild by me was probably 2002, but maybe only 4,000 <br>miles since then. My=
occasional driver; it has about 105k miles on <br>it. The car had one DPO,=
he did a valve job at aroung 75k <br>miles. I'm certain carb shaft bushing=
s were never re-done. <br><br>Problem is-- Engine hot, after a few minutes =
of stopandgo driving, I <br>might reach say 3500 RPM in normal shift sequen=
ces. When I let off <br>the throttle during shifting, or want to decelerate=
, the RPM <br>sometimes stays at the high peak-- like 3500! A few frantic k=
icks of <br>the pedal will "usually" bring things down to normal idle-- but=
it's <br>dicey. There is no stumble on acceleration. <br><br>I have inspec=
ted the action of the pedal/carb linkage when car is at <br>rest, and nothi=
ng there seems amiss. So I don't think the linkage is <br>hanging up somewh=
ere (externally). <br><br>Dashpots are losing oil 'too quickly' and I alway=
s have to top them <br>up after the car sits for extended periods (weeks) f=
ollowing, say, a <br>90 mile drive. Yesterday I pulled the air cleaner for =
a look, and <br>noticed both carbs have oily gunk on the piston and the con=
tact area <br>of the carb bottom interface The rear one is worse than the f=
ront <br>one. Not much doubt that the bypassing oil is responsible for the =
<br>gunk-- but can the gunk be the cause of the symptom? <br><br>After some=
carb cleaner spray, and cleaning out the reachable areas, <br>and adding s=
ome oil, I notice the pistons lift normally, falling with <br>a normal 'cli=
ck' . Prior to the cleaning, the pistons didn't fall <br>normally, but were=
hanging up slightly when falling. <br><br>I pulled the carb tops and lifte=
d out the <br>diaphragm/piston/needle. The diaphragms seem ok to me (no obv=
ious <br>tears or cracks) and the alignment tab was correct. I suppose <br>=
"pinholes" could be there, but not visible...? Pistons look fine, <br>the n=
eedles are straight and move correctly against their spring <br>action inte=
rnally. <br><br>I have some spare o-rings for the dashpot oil chambers so t=
oday I <br>will install them. Could the leaking oil and subsequent gunk I <=
br>mentioned be the cause of the throttle staying high, as <br>described? I=
f so, then the cleaning plus adding the new o-ring on <br>each dashpot shou=
ld eliminate the problem. Any comments appreciated. <br><br>I'm aware that =
anything beyond this procedure (relatively easy, carbs <br>remain on car) w=
ill likely require pulling the carbs . Then we are <br>looking at things li=
ke butterfly hang-up... float behavior...float <br>valve... bypass valves..=
. and so on, right? <br><br>Who sells the best quality float assembly repla=
cement? And which <br>vendor's carb rebuild kits are "best", which partly m=
eans "they <br>include the dashpot o-ring" as they should. ISTR years ago, =
some <br>kits didn't have that o-ring. <br><br>Thanks, <br><br>Glenn/San Di=
ego <br>74.5 <br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------ <br><br>Mes=
sage: 2 <br>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:41:48 -0400 <br>From: alan salvatore =
<<a ymailto=3D"mailto:alansalvy@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:alansalvy@gmai=
l.com">alansalvy@gmail.com</a>> <br>To: "<a ymailto=3D"mailto:otral@juno=
.com" href=3D"mailto:otral@juno.com";>otral@juno.com</a>" <<a ymailto=3D"=
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> <br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Damaged top <br>Message-ID: <br><CAAAEehQ8=
kVbKxZ=3DqsKit_hpBTnP9=3DxjMYdoQ2FDcMKb7=3D<a ymailto=3D"mailto:JutvQ@mail.=
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; <br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" <br><br>If it was just a =
tear in the vinyl you could put a patch behind it. <br>With the window sepa=
rating, I guess I would toss it and buy new. <br>Al <br><br>On Tue, Aug 9, =
2016 at 11:13 AM, otral--- via 6pack <<a ymailto=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.t=
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<br>wrote: <br><br>> What are my options? <br>> <br>> 1. Buy a new=
top or, <br>> <br>> 2. Try to repair. (what are the products you guy=
s recommend?) <br>> <br>> Note: my cracks are at the fold ( passenger=
side window) that include <br>> tears and partial separation of the pla=
stic window from the vinyl and small <br>> tear in the vinyl top at the =
fold. <br>> <br>> Alan Graffam in Windsor Locks, CT. 74 French Blue <=
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