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Subject: [6pack] New Clutch
From: COLIN THOM via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:38:56 -0700 (MST)
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When I did mine 3 years ago, Luc was the recommended clutch choice. Having =
had both Borg and Laycock pressure plates fail, I was happy to buck up for =
the clutch made by Porsche's supplier. So far..no problems and it's outlast=
ed all the other ones.=20


Your chatter upon clutch engagement was likely the failing pressure plate o=
r possibly oil on the friction plate but since you did this so long ago, th=
e oil problem would have reasserted itself quickly if you didn't replace th=
e rear engine seal at the time.=20


While you're in there, here are the rings you need to do.=20


Replace the rear engine seal.=20
If your ring gear is in rough shape, replace it while you've got the flywhe=
el in your hand.=20
Have the flywheel resurfaced at a machine shop. There' s no need to lighten=
 it unless you're on your way to building a race car.=20
If the starter pinion gear is in rough shape, replace it, too.=20
Since it's in your hand=E2=80=A6have the starter overhauled=20
If you haven't done it already, drill and pin or bolt the release fork onto=
 the release shaft so you've got more to rely on than the screw that's doin=
g the job. Loctite the screw.=20


Aligning relates to centering the friction plate when you bolt the pressure=
 plate onto the flywheel. The clutch kit will come with a plastic tool for =
doing this. The object is to make sure the centers of the pilot bushing, fr=
iction plate and pressure plate are aligned so that when you offer the tran=
smission to the engine back plate, the transmission input shaft slides into=
 the pilot bushing nice and smoothly and the splines on the shaft engage sm=
oothly with those on the friction plate.=20


Colin=20
74-1/2=20


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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:11:31 +0000=20
From: James_ <jattr6@hotmail.com>=20
To: James_ <jattr6@hotmail.com>=20
Cc: 6packer via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] New Clutch=20
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Correction...=20
In 2000 I bought a LUX kit from TRF. I paid $139. I doubt it came with the =
Gunst style bearing. BPNW carries that bearing and brass sleeve for $130 pa=
rt number GRB211HD. Not sure which pressure plate and clutch disk to buy to=
 go with the Gunst bearing if that setup is desired. So confusing.=20
All I know is when I bought the 3 piece LUX kit and the pilot bushing, ever=
ything seems to work great. On TRF site. Blue book. There is a listing for =
a Laycock brand 3 piece set for $184 RFK116. Must be what I bought but the =
prices have climbed. I had a fourth gear shaft to use for alignment. So I d=
idn't need the 5 piece LUX set currently being sold by BPNW.=20

So it seems the vote is to find an original Laycock clutch set. I saw one s=
ell on eBay not long ago for close to the price of the magic clutch set. No=
t clear which plate and bearing to use with an original pressure plate. I r=
ead the original clutch will have aged and need new silicon grease packed s=
omewhere...the clutch plate springs? Again, confusing.=20

So I am still not sure what would be the best clutch set.=20

Also, I read about aligning the transmission to the engine...what does that=
 entail beyond lining the locating pins and bell housing bolts. Seems to me=
 there is no room for mis-alignment! Wow. I must have gotten lucky.=20

I should mention, I replaced my clutch because of chatter felt in the rear =
end / transmission when I let the clutch out. Something was not releasing. =
Bearing, loose clutch plate...something. But the kit I installed in 2000 fi=
xed it.=20

So what is the best solution???=20
A mix of Gunst bearing and original pressure plates?=20

-Sent from my Atari 2600-=20

On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:25 PM, "James_ via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net<mailt=
o:6pack@autox.team.net>> wrote:=20

Hi Steve and all.=20

I believe I went with the Sachs and gunst bearing last time I was addressin=
g chatter / vibrating clutch when I released the pedal. That was back in 19=
99 and many many miles ago. I plan to double check - as my setup works awes=
ome.=20


-Sent from my Atari 2600-=20

On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:25 PM, "Steve Kirsis via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net<=
mailto:6pack@autox.team.net>> wrote:=20




On Monday, November 9, 2015 11:28 AM, Steve Kirsis <stevekirsis@yahoo.com<m=
ailto:stevekirsis@yahoo.com>> wrote:=20


Dale, If you can get a copy of Nelson Reidel's piece on a 100,000 mile clut=
ch it would be worth your while. A combo of cross drilling to improve the f=
ork stability, a Sachs pressure plate and Gunst throw out bearing is the ma=
in theme. I do believe I still have the piece but see if you can pick it up=
 thru the 6-Pack. Ashford Little might be able to dig it up for you. We bot=
h have the system in our Sixes with fantastic results. I have installed thi=
s package on 3 TR'S. A beautiful working smooth clutch.=20





On Monday, November 9, 2015 10:22 AM, Dale Katzfey via 6pack <6pack@autox.t=


OK, now that it was determined that I should replace the clutch, what=20
does everyone like? I was thinking about using TRF Magic Clutch.=20

Any opinions out there?=20

Dale=20
74 TR6=20
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From: alan salvatore <alansalvy@gmail.com>=20
To: James_ <jattr6@hotmail.com>=20
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Subject: Re: [6pack] New Clutch=20
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I've used the Sachs and the Lux clutch kits with good results with the RHP=
=20
Bearing.=20
The key is to get the Bronze sleeve.=20
There has been a rash of bad stock sleeves. The tolerance is too small and=
=20
as they heat up they bind.=20
I recently got one the wouldn't even fit on the transmission snout.=20

Al=20

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:11 PM, James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
wrote:=20

> Correction...=20
> In 2000 I bought a LUX kit from TRF. I paid $139. I doubt it came with th=
e=20
> Gunst style bearing. BPNW carries that bearing and brass sleeve for $130=
=20
> part number GRB211HD. Not sure which pressure plate and clutch disk to bu=
y=20
> to go with the Gunst bearing if that setup is desired. So confusing.=20
> All I know is when I bought the 3 piece LUX kit and the pilot bushing,=20
> everything seems to work great. On TRF site. Blue book. There is a listin=
g=20
> for a Laycock brand 3 piece set for $184 RFK116. Must be what I bought bu=
t=20
> the prices have climbed. I had a fourth gear shaft to use for alignment. =
So=20
> I didn't need the 5 piece LUX set currently being sold by BPNW.=20
>=20
> So it seems the vote is to find an original Laycock clutch set. I saw one=
=20
> sell on eBay not long ago for close to the price of the magic clutch set.=
=20
> Not clear which plate and bearing to use with an original pressure plate.=
 I=20
> read the original clutch will have aged and need new silicon grease packe=
d=20
> somewhere...the clutch plate springs? Again, confusing.=20
>=20
> So I am still not sure what would be the best clutch set.=20
>=20
> Also, I read about aligning the transmission to the engine...what does=20
> that entail beyond lining the locating pins and bell housing bolts. Seems=
=20
> to me there is no room for mis-alignment! Wow. I must have gotten lucky.=
=20
>=20
> I should mention, I replaced my clutch because of chatter felt in the rea=
r=20
> end / transmission when I let the clutch out. Something was not releasing=
.=20
> Bearing, loose clutch plate...something. But the kit I installed in 2000=
=20
> fixed it.=20
>=20
> So what is the best solution???=20
> A mix of Gunst bearing and original pressure plates?=20
>=20
> ?Sent from my Atari 2600?=20
>=20
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:25 PM, "James_ via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
> wrote:=20
>=20
> Hi Steve and all.=20
>=20
> I believe I went with the Sachs and gunst bearing last time I was=20
> addressing chatter / vibrating clutch when I released the pedal. That was=
=20
> back in 1999 and many many miles ago. I plan to double check - as my setu=
p=20
> works awesome.=20
>=20
>=20
> ?Sent from my Atari 2600?=20
>=20
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:25 PM, "Steve Kirsis via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.ne=
t>=20
> wrote:=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 11:28 AM, Steve Kirsis <stevekirsis@yahoo.com=
>=20
> wrote:=20
>=20
>=20
> Dale, If you can get a copy of Nelson Reidel's piece on a 100,000 mile=20
> clutch it would be worth your while. A combo of cross drilling to improve=
=20
> the fork stability, a Sachs pressure plate and Gunst throw out bearing is=
=20
> the main theme. I do believe I still have the piece but see if you can pi=
ck=20
> it up thru the 6-Pack. Ashford Little might be able to dig it up for you.=
=20
> We both have the system in our Sixes with fantastic results. I have=20
> installed this package on 3 TR'S. A beautiful working smooth clutch.=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 10:22 AM, Dale Katzfey via 6pack <=20
> 6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
>=20
>=20
> OK, now that it was determined that I should replace the clutch, what=20
> does everyone like? I was thinking about using TRF Magic Clutch.=20
>=20
> Any opinions out there?=20
>=20
> Dale=20
> 74 TR6=20
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div style=3D'font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; colo=
r: #000000'>When I did mine 3 years ago, Luc was the recommended clutch cho=
ice. Having had both &nbsp;Borg &nbsp;and Laycock pressure plates fail, I w=
as happy to buck up for the clutch made by Porsche's supplier. So far..no p=
roblems and it's outlasted all the other ones.<div><br></div><div>Your chat=
ter upon clutch &nbsp;engagement was likely the failing pressure plate or p=
ossibly oil on the friction plate but since you did this so long ago, the o=
il problem would have reasserted itself quickly if you didn't replace the r=
ear engine seal at the time.</div><div><br></div><div>While you're in there=
, here are the rings you need to do.</div><div><br></div><div>Replace the r=
ear engine seal.</div><div>If your ring gear is in rough shape, replace it =
while you've got the flywheel in your hand.</div><div>Have the flywheel res=
urfaced at a machine shop. There' s no need to lighten it unless you're on =
your way to building a race car.</div><div>If the starter pinion gear is in=
 rough shape, replace it, too.</div><div>Since it's in your hand=E2=80=A6ha=
ve the starter overhauled</div><div>If you haven't done it already, drill a=
nd pin or bolt the release fork onto the release shaft so you've got more t=
o rely on than the screw that's doing the job. Loctite the screw.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Aligning relates to centering the friction plate when you b=
olt the pressure plate onto the flywheel. The clutch kit will come with a p=
lastic tool for doing this. The object is to make sure the centers of the p=
ilot bushing, friction plate and pressure plate are aligned so that when yo=
u offer the transmission to the engine back plate, the transmission input s=
haft slides into the pilot bushing nice and smoothly and the splines on the=
 shaft engage smoothly with those on the friction plate.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Colin</div><div>74-1/2</div><div><br><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=
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nt-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>6pack-re=
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ge: 1<br>Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:11:31 +0000<br>From: James_ &lt;jattr6@h=
otmail.com&gt;<br>To: James_ &lt;jattr6@hotmail.com&gt;<br>Cc: 6packer via =
6pack &lt;6pack@autox.team.net&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] New Clutch<br>Me=
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in; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br><br>Correction...<br>In 2000 I bought a LUX kit=
 from TRF. I paid $139. I doubt it came with the Gunst style bearing. BPNW =
carries that bearing and brass sleeve for $130 part number GRB211HD. Not su=
re which pressure plate and clutch disk to buy to go with the Gunst bearing=
 if that setup is desired. So confusing.<br>All I know is when I bought the=
 3 piece LUX kit and the pilot bushing, everything seems to work great. On =
TRF site. Blue book. There is a listing for a Laycock brand 3 piece set for=
 $184 RFK116. Must be what I bought but the prices have climbed. I had a fo=
urth gear shaft to use for alignment. So I didn't need the 5 piece LUX set =
currently being sold by BPNW.<br><br>So it seems the vote is to find an ori=
ginal Laycock clutch set. I saw one sell on eBay not long ago for close to =
the price of the magic clutch set. Not clear which plate and bearing to use=
 with an original pressure plate. I read the original clutch will have aged=
 and need new silicon grease packed somewhere...the clutch plate springs? A=
gain, confusing.<br><br>So I am still not sure what would be the best clutc=
h set.<br><br>Also, I read about aligning the transmission to the engine...=
what does that entail beyond lining the locating pins and bell housing bolt=
s. Seems to me there is no room for mis-alignment! Wow. I must have gotten =
lucky.<br><br>I should mention, I replaced my clutch because of chatter fel=
t in the rear end / transmission when I let the clutch out. Something was n=
ot releasing. Bearing, loose clutch plate...something. But the kit I instal=
led in 2000 fixed it.<br><br>So what is the best solution???<br>A mix of Gu=
nst bearing and original pressure plates?<br><br>-Sent from my Atari 2600-<=
br><br>On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:25 PM, "James_ via 6pack" &lt;6pack@autox.team=
.net&lt;mailto:6pack@autox.team.net&gt;&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi Steve and all.=
<br><br>I believe I went with the Sachs and gunst bearing last time I was a=
ddressing chatter / vibrating clutch when I released the pedal. That was ba=
ck in 1999 and many many miles ago. I plan to double check - as my setup wo=
rks awesome.<br><br><br>-Sent from my Atari 2600-<br><br>On Nov 9, 2015, at=
 3:25 PM, "Steve Kirsis via 6pack" &lt;6pack@autox.team.net&lt;mailto:6pack=
@autox.team.net&gt;&gt; wrote:<br><br><br><br><br>On Monday, November 9, 20=
15 11:28 AM, Steve Kirsis &lt;stevekirsis@yahoo.com&lt;mailto:stevekirsis@y=
ahoo.com&gt;&gt; wrote:<br><br><br>Dale, If you can get a copy of Nelson Re=
idel's piece on a 100,000 mile clutch it would be worth your while. A combo=
 of cross drilling to improve the fork stability, a Sachs pressure plate an=
d Gunst throw out bearing is the main theme. I do believe I still have the =
piece but see if you can pick it up thru the 6-Pack. Ashford Little might b=
e able to dig it up for you. We both have the system in our Sixes with fant=
astic results. I have installed this package on 3 TR'S. A beautiful working=
 smooth clutch.<br><br><br><br><br><br>On Monday, November 9, 2015 10:22 AM=
, Dale Katzfey via 6pack &lt;6pack@autox.team.net&lt;mailto:6pack@autox.tea=
m.net&gt;&gt; wrote:<br><br><br>OK, now that it was determined that I shoul=
d replace the clutch, what<br>does everyone like? &nbsp;I was thinking abou=
t using TRF Magic Clutch.<br><br>Any opinions out there?<br><br>Dale<br>74 =
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r6@hotmail.com&gt;<br>Cc: 6packer via 6pack &lt;6pack@autox.team.net&gt;<br=
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br>I've used the Sachs and the Lux clutch kits with good results with the R=
HP<br>Bearing.<br>The key is to get the Bronze sleeve.<br>There has been a =
rash of bad stock sleeves. The tolerance is too small and<br>as they heat u=
p they bind.<br>I recently got one the wouldn't even fit on the &nbsp;trans=
mission snout.<br><br>Al<br><br>On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:11 PM, James_ via=
 6pack &lt;6pack@autox.team.net&gt;<br>wrote:<br><br>&gt; Correction...<br>=
&gt; In 2000 I bought a LUX kit from TRF. I paid $139. I doubt it came with=
 the<br>&gt; Gunst style bearing. BPNW carries that bearing and brass sleev=
e for $130<br>&gt; part number GRB211HD. Not sure which pressure plate and =
clutch disk to buy<br>&gt; to go with the Gunst bearing if that setup is de=
sired. So confusing.<br>&gt; All I know is when I bought the 3 piece LUX ki=
t and the pilot bushing,<br>&gt; everything seems to work great. On TRF sit=
e. Blue book. There is a listing<br>&gt; for a Laycock brand 3 piece set fo=
r $184 RFK116. Must be what I bought but<br>&gt; the prices have climbed. I=
 had a fourth gear shaft to use for alignment. So<br>&gt; I didn't need the=
 5 piece LUX set currently being sold by BPNW.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; So it seems =
the vote is to find an original Laycock clutch set. I saw one<br>&gt; sell =
on eBay not long ago for close to the price of the magic clutch set.<br>&gt=
; Not clear which plate and bearing to use with an original pressure plate.=
 I<br>&gt; read the original clutch will have aged and need new silicon gre=
ase packed<br>&gt; somewhere...the clutch plate springs? Again, confusing.<=
br>&gt;<br>&gt; So I am still not sure what would be the best clutch set.<b=
r>&gt;<br>&gt; Also, I read about aligning the transmission to the engine..=
.what does<br>&gt; that entail beyond lining the locating pins and bell hou=
sing bolts. Seems<br>&gt; to me there is no room for mis-alignment! Wow. I =
must have gotten lucky.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I should mention, I replaced my clu=
tch because of chatter felt in the rear<br>&gt; end / transmission when I l=
et the clutch out. Something was not releasing.<br>&gt; Bearing, loose clut=
ch plate...something. But the kit I installed in 2000<br>&gt; fixed it.<br>=
&gt;<br>&gt; So what is the best solution???<br>&gt; A mix of Gunst bearing=
 and original pressure plates?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ?Sent from my Atari 2600?<br=
>&gt;<br>&gt; On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:25 PM, "James_ via 6pack" &lt;6pack@aut=
ox.team.net&gt;<br>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hi Steve and all.<br>&gt;<br=
>&gt; I believe I went with the Sachs and gunst bearing last time I was<br>=
&gt; addressing chatter / vibrating clutch when I released the pedal. That =
was<br>&gt; back in 1999 and many many miles ago. I plan to double check - =
as my setup<br>&gt; works awesome.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ?Sent from my At=
ari 2600?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:25 PM, "Steve Kirsis via 6pa=
ck" &lt;6pack@autox.team.net&gt;<br>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>=
&gt;<br>&gt; On Monday, November 9, 2015 11:28 AM, Steve Kirsis &lt;steveki=
rsis@yahoo.com&gt;<br>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Dale, If you can =
get a copy of Nelson Reidel's piece on a 100,000 mile<br>&gt; clutch it wou=
ld be worth your while. A combo of cross drilling to improve<br>&gt; the fo=
rk stability, a Sachs pressure plate and Gunst throw out bearing is<br>&gt;=
 the main theme. I do believe I still have the piece but see if you can pic=
k<br>&gt; it up thru the 6-Pack. Ashford Little might be able to dig it up =
for you.<br>&gt; We both have the system in our Sixes with fantastic result=
s. I have<br>&gt; installed this package on 3 TR'S. A beautiful working smo=
oth clutch.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Monday, Nove=
mber 9, 2015 10:22 AM, Dale Katzfey via 6pack &lt;<br>&gt; 6pack@autox.team=
.net&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; OK, now that it was determined that=
 I should replace the clutch, what<br>&gt; does everyone like? &nbsp;I was =
thinking about using TRF Magic Clutch.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Any opinions out the=
re?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Dale<br>&gt; 74 TR6<br>&gt; ___________________________=
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