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21. Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>; Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 18:59:06 -0700; I have been pondering the discussion from yesterday and I am puzzled about something. I have six different books on AUTOMOTIVE Aerodynamics from the SAE and other credible sources and I have not see; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00172.html (7,920 bytes)
22. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: pork.pie@t-online.de (Pork Pie); Date: 06 Jan 2003 03:54 GMT; Howard, you be right, when you say that one degrees make NEARLY NO different. When you go from 6 to 7 degrees, the positive effect of the 7 degrees is smaller than the 6 degrees. You can read all thi; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00177.html (9,474 bytes)
23. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Higginbotham Land Speed Racing <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 09:33:31 -0600; I just measured my tank and reported the findings and would suggest that since it is an airplane part, it must have some theoretical, technical basis.........I have looked and looked and occasionall; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00188.html (8,899 bytes)
24. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:13:53 EST; << I need to know if all these competent people are wrong. Howard Nafzger >> They are right sometimes! jack /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.t; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00197.html (7,826 bytes)
25. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:17:03 EST; << oward, you be right, when you say that one degrees make NEARLY NO different. When you go from 6 to 7 degrees, the positive effect of the 7 degrees is smaller than the 6 degrees. >> Pure science, i; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00199.html (8,071 bytes)
26. RE: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Waldron, James" <James.Waldron@CWUSA.COM>; Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:56:43 -0500; I hope I'm not the only one who doesn't get this. I thought an angle had degrees and a curve had a radius. How do you figure out this angle curve stuff? Tangent intersection over some distance? Help!; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00202.html (8,085 bytes)
27. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>; Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 11:10:41 -0800; That's right and it's the reason why winners don't use junk science, pseudo science or tribal belief systems. Bryan /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00204.html (8,471 bytes)
28. RE: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 16:26:36 -0600; Pork Pie; Perhaps the difference (6 vs 7 degrees departure angle) is due to the assumed air density differences of the automotive vs aircraft applications? Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ Howard, you be rig; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00221.html (10,501 bytes)
29. RE: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:07:23 -0600; It's a tangent over a vanishingly small distance. Differential calculus-- ughh. Just measure it over the shortest distance you can manage. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ I hope I'm not the only one who do; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00222.html (8,848 bytes)
30. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>; Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 16:46:31 -0700; I'm certainly no expert on this and I struggle with it when I build a car. It would have to be a tangential thing because of the constantly curving surface. Maybe one of the guys could shed some lig; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00225.html (9,052 bytes)
31. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>; Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:47:34 -0700; Pork Pie, Thanks for the reply. I never got to Black Rock so it must have been some other ugly guy you were talking to. It's a small point with me because my car is already built and I don't have a t; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00231.html (10,201 bytes)
32. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>; Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:55:27 -0700; Can someone make me a drawing?? Ive always like pictures better than words anyway. Then I can form my own conclusions. Jonathan /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00238.html (9,140 bytes)
33. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:52:02 EST; << That's right and it's the reason why winners don't use junk science, pseudo science or tribal belief systems. Bryan >> Bryan , I do, 'cause I don't know the difference. Do you? Jack /// unsubscrib; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00266.html (8,559 bytes)
34. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:08:44 EST; << We must be close because we went over 300 in 2001 with less than 700 Hp and way too much gear in the car. >> Howard I think less gear -more gear don't make much difference in this game. Drag racin; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00271.html (8,636 bytes)
35. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "DrMayf" <drmayf@teknett.com>; Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:11:49 -0800; Jack, isn't what you are saying is that the horsepower has to be matched to the gears? FOr instance can you not have super monster of a motor that revs to 7000 really well but the gears are so low th; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00282.html (9,552 bytes)
36. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: pork.pie@t-online.de (Pork Pie); Date: 07 Jan 2003 21:11 GMT; Mathematical two parallel lines cross in the infinite...no joke But mathematical a curve can be very small straight lines in a row, and this small lines creates a tangential curve or radius (means no; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00292.html (10,499 bytes)
37. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Chris Harris <yesford@clear.net.nz>; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:06:49 +1300; My old stupid saying is gears don't make horsepower! Jack Jack..............surely the right gear will put you into the right rpm where the most power is. Chris Harris..........................NZed.; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00295.html (8,610 bytes)
38. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>; Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 17:05:36 -0800; Oh that's simple. Science is based on fact and theory. The two are never (By good Scientists) The other stuff is based on belief - like the belief, at one time by everyone, that the Earth is flat. An; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00302.html (9,006 bytes)
39. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>; Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:04:33 -0700; I agree to a point but the engine developed maximum power at 8000 on the dyno and I was only turning it 7400 out the back door. Down about 30 HP. Howard nafzger@vtc.net game. /// unsubscribe/change; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00308.html (9,135 bytes)
40. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>; Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:17:38 -0700; Pork Pie, Thanks for the compliments on the car. I was not trying to degrade anyone by saying they were ugly. Just making a poor joke. My car is longer than I would consider ideal and 4"wider than th; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00310.html (10,296 bytes)

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