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1. Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Randall Young" <ryoung@navcomtech.com>; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 09:55:35 -0700; The ceiling joists in my attached garage (which I use as my shop) are 2x6 beams on 4' centers (yes, 48" centers) that span roughly 24' between the walls. Obviously the original intent was only to hol; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00102.html (8,696 bytes)
2. Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Randall Young" <ryoung@navcomtech.com>; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 10:20:18 -0700; The ceiling joists in my attached garage (which I use as my shop) are 2x6 beams on 4' centers (yes, 48" centers) that span roughly 24' between the walls. Obviously the original intent was only to hol; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00103.html (8,841 bytes)
3. Re: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Eric J Russell" <ejrussell@mebtel.net>; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:49:16 -0400; What you are proposing is called 'sistering'. If both ends of the new 2x6 are resting on walls that will support the weight it should work fine. Sounds like you might want to sister the remaining 2x6; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00104.html (9,802 bytes)
4. Re: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Peter J. Thomas" <pjthomas@adelphia.net>; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 14:18:11 -0400; The cracked appears, from your post, to be 6 feet from the wall. Two 16 foot joists would not overlap the break so you face the same failure again. Each joist would end 8 feet from the wall. I would; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00105.html (10,621 bytes)
5. RE: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Randall Young" <ryoung@navcomtech.com>; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:00:21 -0700; Thanks for the thoughts, Peter. My apologies, the break is actually near the center. It's probably 2' long and runs at an angle. The new 'sister's would overlap it by several feet, although I'm reall; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00106.html (11,168 bytes)
6. RE: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Randall Young" <ryoung@navcomtech.com>; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:06:36 -0700; Thanks for the reply, Eric. Unfortunately, in one direction is the rest of the house, and in the other is my neighbor's house. (Yes, we have large houses on tiny lots. Only takes about 15 minutes to; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00107.html (8,957 bytes)
7. RE: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: dms@scheidt.chem.nd.edu; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 15:29:47 -0500 (EST); Make them as long as you possibly can. Remember to use large washers to distribute the clamping force on the wood face. More than a couple hundred PSI will crush the wood, causing a loss of strength.; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00108.html (10,090 bytes)
8. Re[2]: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: Richard Welty <rwelty@suespammers.org>; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:19:31 -0400 (EDT); what will happen is that you will strengthen part of the system, but create substantially higher loads at the ends of the sistering joists. the end result will be to create a new break at this point.; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00109.html (9,707 bytes)
9. Re[2]: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: dms@scheidt.chem.nd.edu; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:36:43 -0500 (EST); Maybe, maybe not. I'm not clear on whether the break is from the top of the joist or from the bottom. If it's from the bottom, it's probably a failure due to too much tension on the bottom of the bea; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00110.html (9,274 bytes)
10. Re: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Phil Ethier" <pethier@isd.net>; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 16:37:31 -0500; Firstly, there is nothing off-topic about your question. This is just the sort of thing we talk about on shop-talk all the time. This is similar to what I had on the existing garage when I moved in h; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00111.html (10,539 bytes)
11. Re: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: Steve Shipley <shiples@attbi.com>; Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 23:53:13 -0700; My garage has a 24 foot span. It uses 2x12 microlams on 1 foot centers. The room above uses pre-engineered trusses built out of 2x4s and metal connectors on 2 foot centers. The loads on the different; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00112.html (10,773 bytes)
12. Re: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Peter J. Thomas" <pjthomas@adelphia.net>; Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:32:38 -0400; No apologies necessary, I should have understood 3/4 through meant across the board, not along the board. It does change things dramatically. What you are suggesting will make a strong joist than bef; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00113.html (11,533 bytes)
13. Re: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: William Hook <wghook@earthlink.net>; Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:09:51 -0700; I'm suprised that only one joist has cracked unless you were joking to some extent about "mostly books" up there. You are right that 2x6's at 48"OC were not intended to hold any live loads, only the; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00114.html (11,107 bytes)
14. Re: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>; Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:04:44 -0700; Disclaimer: Most of what I know about rafters and joists I learned from watching Hometime and This Old House. My thoughts: - If you sister the broken beam with 2x6 and can't go the full length with; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00145.html (10,099 bytes)
15. Re: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Mark Watson" <watsonm05@attbi.com>; Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:11:03 -0400; Hi all, I just had to jump into this topic. Not that I'm any kind of structural engineer but rather an electrical engineer who took (and pretty much enjoyed) the required mechanical courses many year; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00156.html (10,036 bytes)
16. RE: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Randall Young" <ryoung@navcomtech.com>; Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:56:46 -0700; Mark, what is the advantage of adding the two 8' sections ? The original beam is not only sound, but already adequate in these areas, plus it's already being doubled on one side. With new beams on ei; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00157.html (9,573 bytes)
17. Re: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: Jim Ferguson <jferg@twave.net>; Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 00:39:30 -0400; /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/shop-talk; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00158.html (7,826 bytes)
18. RE: Slightly off-topic question (score: 1): Author: "Flemming Larsen" <flarsen@earthlink.net>; Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:16:19 -0700; This reminds me of an old wisdom, which I learned years ago: "It's not a matter of how long you make it", "It's a matter of how you make it long". Old wisdom never fails! -- Flemming Larsen /// unsu; /html/shop-talk/2002-06/msg00159.html (11,094 bytes)

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