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1. [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Steven W. Riggins" <mailinglists@geeksrus.com>; Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 20:57:55 -0700; Hi again. Thanks for all of your input last time :) My 97 has been seeing lower and lower milage, esp in the city. Since I just got the wheel bearing fixed (which has removed all sounds I was hearing; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00046.html (8,393 bytes)
2. RE: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>; Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 23:11:17 -0500; Use 87 octane and your mileage will go up. All higher octane fuel does is line the oil companies pockets. How many miles on the car? Are they the original O2 sensors? Paul L Fisher Visit my website:; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00047.html (9,736 bytes)
3. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: Ian Fisher <dataflash@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 06:47:22 -0700 (PDT); How old are the oxygen sensors? Any maintenance performed? Air filter? plugs? oil in plug wells? Ian Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _____________; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00048.html (10,906 bytes)
4. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Steven W. Riggins" <mailinglists@geeksrus.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 07:44:18 -0700; I put 87 (the middle grade) in it once and had a lot of knocking and pinging, back in 2000, so I went right back to 92. Why could that have been? it has the original O2 sensors. Air filter is new wit; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00049.html (12,046 bytes)
5. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: FlamingTaco <flamingtaco@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 05:50:56 -0400 (GMT-04:00); High octane is only about 7% more expensive than low grade now. Only good thing about high gas prices is you don't feel much of a difference in the wallet anymore. David --Original Message-- ________; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00050.html (10,702 bytes)
6. RE: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@ameritech.net>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 11:09:06 -0400; Run at least a couple of tanks of 87. And I also trust that you stick your foot into it. If you light-foot it, so that it lugs around with the TC locked up at low engine speeds, that will also do it.; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00051.html (12,871 bytes)
7. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Rick Glass" <cmysho@comcast.net>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 01:28:30 -0500; I would start with dropping the supreme and start running 87 octane.......it may not seem to get better mileage off of the first few tanks, but it will improve after a couple of tanks. Fuel costs too; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00052.html (9,579 bytes)
8. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: Ron Childs <rbchilds@pacbell.net>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:01:09 -0700 (PDT); I too have had pinging issues with regular gas in my '91. Premium was fine. I suspect that even if you do not have knocking with regular, there will be a power loss as the PCM compensates for the low; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00054.html (12,895 bytes)
9. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Rick Glass" <cmysho@comcast.net>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 11:31:15 -0500; Overall cost depends on how much you drive. .20 per gallon is only $2.60 on a 13 gallon fill, but I usually have to fill up at least twicw a week, sometimes 3 times. That adds up real quick and the a; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00056.html (12,911 bytes)
10. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Steven W. Riggins" <mailinglists@geeksrus.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:04:57 -0700; Is that for the first few tanks, or do I always need to floor it? I'm usually easier on the gas than not. _______________________________________________ Shotimes mailing list Shotimes@autox.team.net; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00058.html (12,298 bytes)
11. RE: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Juillerat, Aaron J" <aaronj@autojectors.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 13:21:12 -0400; Drive like you normally would that is best. The computer will adjust to the optimum performance of the parameters it's faced with. Meaning your car was use to how you drive with premium, then all the; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00059.html (13,297 bytes)
12. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Rick Glass" <cmysho@comcast.net>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 12:43:16 -0500; Yeah, what he said..... I have a very heavy foot all the time, so mine is more accustomed to being driven hard. Rick Glass '99 SF 98k Flowmasters Kirk'd ______________________________________________; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00061.html (14,520 bytes)
13. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 16:45:03 -0500; I don't consider that bad mileage for in town. What kind of tranny fluid and oil are you using? Tires? Paul _______________________________________________ Shotimes mailing list Shotimes@autox.team.n; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00066.html (10,391 bytes)
14. RE: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 17:15:10 -0500; There is no learning for the octane. The knock sensors fire off when they hear noise and the timing is immediately retarded. The new timing numbers will automatically be adjusted no matter what or wh; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00067.html (11,186 bytes)
15. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Steven W. Riggins" <mailinglists@geeksrus.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 15:40:07 -0700; So if my O2 sensors are going bad, that would make it run too rich and cause some of the rich fuel odor I smell from time to time? _______________________________________________ Shotimes mailing lis; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00068.html (12,256 bytes)
16. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Steven W. Riggins" <mailinglists@geeksrus.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 15:42:06 -0700; tranny fluid is whatever the Ford dealer put in - I don't know :) I am using Mobil 1 5/30 (I said 10/30, which I think I used years ago, but been 5/30 for awhile) ____________________________________; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00069.html (11,129 bytes)
17. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 18:04:40 -0500; Usually if they are going bad they become slow when switching. The O2s have a 1V operating range and normally cycle 0-1V somewhere about every second. As they age this becomes slower. Fuel smell is e; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00070.html (10,558 bytes)
18. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Steven W. Riggins" <mailinglists@geeksrus.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 16:16:40 -0700; Meaning is the check engine light on? No. I have no other way to check for codes. _______________________________________________ Shotimes mailing list Shotimes@autox.team.net http://www.team.net/mai; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00071.html (9,164 bytes)
19. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: Donald Mallinson <dmall@mwonline.net>; Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:54:15 -0500; One thing to remember is that almost always when there is a "O2" sensor code, that means that the sensor is working just fine, it is telling you that there is something wrong upstream. In talking wit; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00075.html (13,461 bytes)
20. Re: [Shotimes] Poor mileage (score: 1): Author: "Steven W. Riggins" <mailinglists@geeksrus.com>; Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 17:52:33 -0700; Mine is not that bad but dropping fast. I guess I will take it into the beaverton dealer and have them give it a run through. _______________________________________________ Shotimes mailing list Sho; /html/shotimes/2006-07/msg00082.html (9,229 bytes)

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