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1. [Shop-talk] residentual wiring question (score: 1): Author: Rich White <rlwhitetr3b@hotmail.com>; Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:18:32 -0500; I'm working with wiring in an older building. Some of the outlets do not have a grounding, bare/green, wire in the box. I want to provide the user with an outlet which will accept a three prong plug.; /html/shop-talk/2009-06/msg00009.html (7,400 bytes)
2. Re: [Shop-talk] residentual wiring question (score: 1): Author: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>; Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:46:15 -0400; have Some places. You have to label the outlets "NO EQUIPMENT GROUND" and "GFCI protected". (I've never seen any labeled, until a couple months ago, when an inspector pointed this out (and refused to; /html/shop-talk/2009-06/msg00010.html (7,562 bytes)
3. Re: [Shop-talk] residentual wiring question (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:01:34 -0700; ISTR the NEC didn't require this; but I sure wouldn't want a house that was wired that way. In effect, not having the safety ground connected back to the GFCI would mean that an appliance plugged in; /html/shop-talk/2009-06/msg00011.html (7,920 bytes)
4. Re: [Shop-talk] residentual wiring question (score: 1): Author: Pat Horne <pat@hornesystemstx.com>; Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:08:26 -0500; I thought that you could use a GFCI on a two wire set up, but you couldn't add any down-stream outlets. That is, that each 3 wire outlet needed to be a GFCI. I don't have my code book here, but will; /html/shop-talk/2009-06/msg00012.html (9,059 bytes)
5. Re: [Shop-talk] residentual wiring question (score: 1): Author: Rich White <rlwhitetr3b@hotmail.com>; Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:44:18 -0500; The shorting to the item's shell was the part that bothered me, but I don't think that connecting the grounding wire back to the GFCI would help. From what I found on the net and want I remember, th; /html/shop-talk/2009-06/msg00013.html (10,615 bytes)
6. Re: [Shop-talk] residentual wiring question (score: 1): Author: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>; Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 23:51:48 -0400; B From in all be That's correct: GFCI compares the hot and the neutral currents. If they're different (more than the spec for the GFCI; you have to allow some difference for real equipment), it trips; /html/shop-talk/2009-06/msg00014.html (8,674 bytes)
7. Re: [Shop-talk] residentual wiring question (score: 1): Author: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek@ameritech.net>; Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 07:54:36 -0500; One (contrived but effective) method to improve the situation would be to make a local ground to a water pipe, etc. for that portion of the circuit. As long as the local ground in that area was NOT i; /html/shop-talk/2009-06/msg00015.html (8,566 bytes)

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