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1. [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek@ameritech.net>; Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:52:30 -0500; I've been running the manufacturer-recommended 5W-30 in my 2 modern cars, both current-generation American V-8's, each purchased used with 25,000 and 36,000 miles on them, and I've used synthetic sin; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00105.html (8,420 bytes)
2. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:31:59 -0700; Can't really prove it, but it's my belief that Valvoline full synthetic (which is what I use in all my cars regardless of age) does have a higher film strength than 'dinosaur juice'; which makes it b; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00106.html (8,165 bytes)
3. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: "David C." <cavanadd@verizon.net>; Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:44:24 -0700; I'm not a mechanic, and don't play one on TV or anywhere else. However, I feel your same discomfort for 5W oils. When I got my new 2003 GMC 1/2 ton truck, the owners manual recommended 5W30 oil but s; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00107.html (10,808 bytes)
4. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:42:03 -0700; What I find ironic about this is that 5W30 is never thinner (less viscous) than 10W30 is at normal operating temperature. It's the second number that specifies the oil's viscosity at 100C, which is; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00108.html (8,041 bytes)
5. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:55:43 -0400; Not a professional mechanic, but my feeling is synthetics are probably not needed when everything is going right. But some time over the car's lifetime, something is probably going to go wrong. Maybe; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00110.html (8,641 bytes)
6. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:14:51 -0700; I'm only a shadetree mechanic, but I've given this subject quite a bit of thought and research. Synthetics, arguably, are more durable than mineral oil as far as breakdown from shear forces. However,; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00112.html (11,201 bytes)
7. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: pethier@comcast.net; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:53:49 +0000; I have yet to see a convincing argument of why this is needed. The contaminants from combustion seem to be the most important thing to me. _______________________________________________ Support Tea; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00113.html (7,773 bytes)
8. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:08:03 -0700; Correct. The argument, I believe, is that if you're only making short trips--say, a couple miles back and forth to work every day--you're not getting the oil hot enough for long enough to boil off wa; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00114.html (8,833 bytes)
9. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: Battmain <battmain@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:38:58 -0700 (PDT); The car in my fleet with the most mileage has 263k miles. I used 10w30 due to the average temps in my area. It has dino oil that I changed every 5k miles. As the leaks grew larger, I would have to ca; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00116.html (8,806 bytes)
10. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: Mark Andy <mark@sccaprepared.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:29:04 -0400 (EDT); Everyone should make their own decision on this stuff, but you can get oil analysis done (what's the plural of analysis?) to tell you the condition of your oil. You can use that to determine if its; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00119.html (10,181 bytes)
11. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: bspidell@comcast.net (Bob Spidell); Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:50:09 +0000; bs -- ** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M ** _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.ht; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00121.html (10,906 bytes)
12. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:59:12 -0700; Analyses. http://mw1.m-w.com/dictionary/analyses _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Shop-talk mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00123.html (9,018 bytes)
13. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: "David Scheidt" <dmscheidt@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:57:53 -0400; -- David Scheidt dmscheidt@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Shop-talk mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/sho; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00127.html (9,856 bytes)
14. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: "Chip Mautz" <clmautz@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:02:38 -0400; I'm a renegade, I guess - or maybe a maverick? :-) I don't subscribe to the change early and often mantra, I go usually 10-15k/oil change in my vehicles. I've done this with: a 2002 Pontiac Grand Pri; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00128.html (11,613 bytes)
15. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: "Mullen, Tim" <Tim.Mullen@ngc.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:23:04 -0500; I don't know of anything specific to Mobil 1, but the new API "SM" rated oils (the current standard) have a reduced amount of one of the anti-wear additives compared to the previous API "SL" standard; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00129.html (9,665 bytes)
16. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: "Paul Parkanzky" <parkanzky@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:23:19 -0400; We have a couple of VW TDIs and they call for 10,000 mile oil changes. On the older of the two I've done 10k mile changes with synthetic Rotella oil and it has 243,000+ miles on it and still burn oil; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00130.html (12,900 bytes)
17. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: Doug Braun <doug@dougbraun.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:21:01 -0700 (PDT); Last spring I had to replace the head gaskets on my '98 Subaru, and I had a chance to inspect the cylinder walls. Even after 125k miles, I could still see the original honing marks all around the cyl; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00131.html (9,287 bytes)
18. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:39:32 -0400; So, you're not sure if you're a jeep or an old ford? :-) Seriously, though, I think you're pushing your luck a bit. 3000miles/ 3 years is conservative and perhaps unnecessary. But 15K? I know you say; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00132.html (9,506 bytes)
19. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: Doug Braun <doug@dougbraun.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:36:05 -0700 (PDT); The ZDPP articles I have read have said that modern engines are not affected because they have roller tappets instead of flat tappets. But obviously not all (or even most) modern engines have roller; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00133.html (8,909 bytes)
20. Re: [Shop-talk] Oil grade selection (score: 1): Author: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>; Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:45:11 -0400; That's what I thought too. I asked about this back in May over on the HAMB board. This is what I was told: "...the Big Three have used roller cams in their V8s since the mid to late '80s, at least th; /html/shop-talk/2008-10/msg00136.html (9,473 bytes)

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