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1. [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: eric@megageek.com; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:12:47 -0400; Here is a topic I don't think we ever discussed before, so let me throw out my question. I have a few trailers (one car and one boat) that have brakes on them. One has a surge type brake (boat) and t; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00057.html (8,006 bytes)
2. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:02:09 -0400; I have the same thing, a boat trailer with surge brakes and a car trailer with electric drum brakes. Everything I have read says that electric brakes are a bad idea on boat trailers. For example, fro; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00058.html (9,926 bytes)
3. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: Pat Horne <pat@hornesystemstx.com>; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:22:26 -0500; See interspersed reply Thusly spake eric@megageek.com, On 9/23/2010 8:12 AM: There should be a square mount that the backing plate is bolted to. A disk setup can bolt to this also. If your axle has t; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00059.html (9,362 bytes)
4. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: eric@megageek.com; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:22:27 -0400; Steve asks... "BTW, what kind of controllers are you running in your trucks?" Well actually that is a funny question. Over the past month, I've added controllers to my truck and my dad's truck (he of; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00060.html (7,647 bytes)
5. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:37:54 -0400; I have a Draw-tite Activator brake controller. I bought it because I needed something, and the mounting flexibility was a plus. This controller applies an amount of braking selected by the operator,; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00070.html (8,930 bytes)
6. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: pethier@comcast.net; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:05:38 +0000 (UTC); I have a Hayes Genesis brake controller. It seems to work great, sense deceleration, and mount at the crazy angle needed to be easy to reach with my left hand and not smack my knee every time I enter; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00071.html (10,627 bytes)
7. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:08:32 -0700; I'm just curious, does no one use the kind that actually senses brake fluid pressure in the tow vehicle anymore? It's been a long time since I've towed with electric brakes, but it seemed like a goo; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00072.html (8,467 bytes)
8. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:13:19 -0400; I have never seen such a thing offered for sale. -Steve _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00073.html (8,295 bytes)
9. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: pethier@comcast.net; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:50:35 +0000 (UTC); I guess it has gone out of style. I know that is what my father had back in the 1970s. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UB "uncle jack" 2004 Suburban 8.1 2005 L; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00075.html (9,747 bytes)
10. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: Pat Horne <pat@hornesystemstx.com>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:51:43 -0500; Austin Habitat for Humanity was given a 80 something truck that had one of those set ups on it. Nothing electronic, just a variable resistor that is controlled by either manual control or brake press; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00076.html (9,644 bytes)
11. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:55:27 -0700; Ah, maybe they are no longer available as an aftermarket device. I just found a comment on a BBS to that effect. http://tinyurl.com/2cn2un5 "Until the advent of anti-lock brake systems (ABS), most br; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00077.html (8,598 bytes)
12. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:59:16 -0400; in the 1970s. Totally unsuitable for something with ABS, where there's a pump that changes fluid pressure to match the wheel's braking ability. accelerometers are dirt cheap these days, anyway, so el; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00078.html (8,416 bytes)
13. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:30:48 -0700; Doesn't seem like a problem to me, since the trailer brakes should already be full on well before any of the tow vehicle wheels starts to slip. At worst, the controller would need a bit of memory, t; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00080.html (9,420 bytes)
14. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:36:26 -0700; That's true, but the vehicle is subject to accelerations that do not indicate braking activity. Using an accelerometer to measure how hard the brakes are applied is like trying to judge whether the; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00081.html (8,919 bytes)
15. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:37 -0400; be worst, control on a You're right about the pressure between the MC and the ABS control unit. I hadn't thought about it hard enough. Here's the real problem: Find a piece of ice, so you've got zero; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00082.html (10,949 bytes)
16. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:00:50 -0700; I won't. Pumping is _always_ a bad idea, except for people that don't know how to modulate (or brakes that are defective). To get the best braking, you want just enough brake that the tire develops; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00083.html (9,556 bytes)
17. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:21:45 -0400; know pedal. People claim that they're better than a computer. I've never seen anyone present actual evidence. In particular, ABS systems can find the point at which the wheels are going to lock witho; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00084.html (9,295 bytes)
18. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:48:12 -0700; Not true, at least not of any system I've heard of. They actually sense when the wheel has locked, then as a binary function release the brake on that wheel until it is turning at road speed again.; /html/shop-talk/2010-09/msg00086.html (9,054 bytes)
19. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: Mark Andy <marka@maracing.com>; Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:01:29 -0400 (EDT); This is probably a pretty late reply and may have already been mentioned, but the short answer is to buy a Tekonsha Prodigy brake controller. Its proportional, doesn't need to be mounted flat (but m; /html/shop-talk/2010-10/msg00011.html (8,369 bytes)
20. Re: [Shop-talk] Electronic trailer brakes (score: 1): Author: "Gil Fuqua" <Gil.Fuqua@cci-ir.com>; Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 14:16:22 -0500; I agree with Mark's endorsement of the Tekonsha Prodigy. It works great with my heavy car trailer and a lighter horse trailer. It's a giant step up from the others I have used. When I researched it o; /html/shop-talk/2010-10/msg00012.html (7,335 bytes)

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