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21. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:49:03 EST; << I built a racing Go Kart frame with it. Howard Nafzger >> Me too, a 4130 dragster also. JACK /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mail; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00352.html (8,723 bytes)
22. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:54:55 EST; << Many high-dollar custom bike frames are fillet brazed, as were some motorcycles (Rickman, for one), and race car chassis. It seems as if fillet brazing was far more widely used in the UK than in t; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00353.html (8,952 bytes)
23. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 08:04:55 -0800; For anyone curious about the specifications of Reynolds 531: Bryan /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00356.html (8,712 bytes)
24. RE: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:13:16 -0600; Good find, Bryan! For anyone curious about the specifications of Reynolds 531: http://www.reynoldsusa.com/mnmo/mnmo.html Bryan /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or t; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00360.html (9,047 bytes)
25. RE: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:19:12 -0600; Your Harley is one year older than I am. Sounds like it might be in better shape, too! Regards, Neil Neil, Thanks for the detailed report. I printed it out and put in my info folder. For what it is; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00362.html (9,513 bytes)
26. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:29:12 EST; << For anyone curious about the specifications of Reynolds 531: http://www.reynoldsusa.com/mnmo/mnmo.html >> Sounds alot like 4130 to me! They don't like welding it! Thanks Bryan. jack /// unsubscrib; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00363.html (8,851 bytes)
27. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 08:35:26 -0800; Thanks Russ. I figured I better do more than just stir or I'd catch it from Glenn B. Bryan /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/l; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00366.html (8,708 bytes)
28. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 08:37:42 -0800; It's the same age as I am and I KNOW it's in better shape. All I do well is idle. Bryan /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/lis; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00367.html (8,838 bytes)
29. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:54:22 EST; << I assume they must have used your fillet-brazing technology, else I don't see how it would ever hold together Its explained in the Reynolds site. as it was to me in 1963 when i built my 4130 drags; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00370.html (8,882 bytes)
30. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:43:07 EST; << Somebody should do that, so that we will have data to support the use of these options for LSR chassis. >> Don't braze nothun unless it's 4130 And you don't have the ability to heat treat it! Chec; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00376.html (8,943 bytes)
31. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:15:59 -0700; I think they named some streets down here after you. They are called "one way" tee hee Howard -- Original Message -- From: <Nt788@aol.com> To: <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>; <ardunbill@webtv.net>; <albaugh; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00380.html (9,772 bytes)
32. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:56:09 EST; << I assume they must have used your fillet-brazing technology, else I don't see how it would ever hold together I made tests comparing nickel silver filet and 4130 tig on.049 wall-- equal strength a; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00382.html (8,673 bytes)
33. RE: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:46:54 -0600; I agree-- Allstate #11 & #13 are good stuff. The thin-flowing #11 is very good where you need a thin brazing alloy that will "wick" up into a joint between two telescoped tubes and #13 is good for f; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00386.html (8,961 bytes)
34. RE: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:05:44 -0600; Bike frames are built two different ways-- with lugs and without lugs. There are custom frame fabricators who swear that one or the other is the best-- there is no agreement about which is "best" wa; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00387.html (9,798 bytes)
35. RE: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:30:57 -0600; RE: Welding vs BrazingThis is really good (and potentially very useful) I have been involved in weld inspection for about 20 years now, and have had some involvement in welding, brazing, silver-solde; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00388.html (9,792 bytes)
36. RE: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:36:45 -0600; That's a good idea; perhaps some of those custom bike frame fabricators would underwrite the tests. I doubt it, though, because too many people have too much invested in their opinions to want to fi; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00389.html (9,764 bytes)
37. RE: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:55:55 -0600; RE: Welding vs BrazingNeil: I agree that most of the technology we seek is probably on file in some aerospace archives. Trouble is, those folks have always been so secretive with their info! I think; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00390.html (9,474 bytes)
38. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 01:32:35 EST; << I think they named some streets down here after you. They are called "one way" tee hee >> What complete non heat treated large structures use other than gas welded or brazed 4130 tubing? Jack --I; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00391.html (8,566 bytes)
39. Re: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 01:36:15 EST; << Somebody should do that, so that we will have data to support the use of these options for LSR chassis. >> Why would you want to braze a lsr chassis? jack /// unsubscribe/change address requests t; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00392.html (8,396 bytes)
40. RE: Welding vs Brazing (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:31:21 -0600; 1. you might want to use an alloy that has problems if you weld it 2. you might want to avoid post-welding heat-treat 3. you might want to avoid the expense of buying a TIG rig 4. if your name is Co; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00398.html (8,967 bytes)

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