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21. Re: The 'New' G Stock? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:28:41 -0700
One event will not show us the best car for any class. --JCG
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00304.html (9,099 bytes)

22. Re: The 'New' G Stock? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:47:53 -0700
Hello fellow ButtHeat member! :-) I too think the DSM and Type R are simular in performance, even though they are signifiacately different cars. Agreed, but with the Type R and Talon in DS (one examp
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00306.html (12,787 bytes)

23. Re: JCG and secret Butheat plot (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:18:35 -0700
Doooooooooooooooow! ...he's on to me ;-) May ButtHeat rule at nationals! (go get'em Ron!) --JCG -- Original Message -- From: Jeff Lloyd <jslz3@hotmail.com> To: <autox@autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, Se
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00312.html (7,259 bytes)

24. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:21:25 -0700
The BMW belongs in GS period.
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00319.html (8,321 bytes)

25. Re: The 'New' G Stock? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:20:02 -0700
Not really, just a funny bone ;-). look It Then why did you state: "The bottom line is that the 1998 Nationals didn't show the Type R as a dominant car." threat car real have yah, all like a What pa
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00321.html (12,486 bytes)

26. Re: JCG and secret Butheat plot (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:37:41 -0700
at Oh
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00335.html (7,674 bytes)

27. Re: The 'New' G Stock? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:38:52 -0700
Yeah, I know, they don't count cones or other big mistakes ;-) that
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00336.html (9,551 bytes)

28. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:42:27 -0700
Yeah, but for a ProSolo national championship, the BLACK miata is clearly the color of choice ;-) (ie, remember Jeff Altenberg won the 96 finally in a black car ;-) ) --JCG -- Original Message -- Fro
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00337.html (9,558 bytes)

29. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:45:30 -0700
I was talking about the currently class BS BMW, which would be the 32x sedan. Hopelessly out classed with equal drivers against the Miata. Now that you mention it, the 1.9 Z3 might stand a chance in
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00338.html (9,324 bytes)

30. 245/45-16 G-Forces for sale (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:54:34 -0700
I've got the perfect BFG for nationals. 1/2 life left at least, in a set of 245/45-16 G-forces for someone. These tires go for $620 new before shipping. I would like to get $200 for the set. I can de
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00340.html (6,399 bytes)

31. Re: The 'New' G Stock? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:26:36 -0700
I'm starting to think you enjoy twisting bits and pieces of what I say ;-) here... title in Having 5 or more _is_ a success, and in 98 we had this but as the year wound down, it came apparent the Tal
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00493.html (11,594 bytes)

32. Re: The 'New' G Stock?vs DS times ... (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:33:42 -0700
As stated before, you can't draw car or class comparison data from one event, especially when the classes don't run close to the same time of day. ie GS ran first group, first day, with dampness. HS
/html/autox/1999-09/msg00494.html (8,369 bytes)

33. Re: Kumhos, shaved vs unshaved performance?? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:38:26 -0700
I don't have back to back test data with the Kumho's, but the BFG R1 was around ~0.4 seconds faster shaved on concrete than the full tread equivalent. I would assume the Kumho to be similar. --JCG --
/html/autox/1999-08/msg00516.html (7,198 bytes)

34. 245/45-16 G-forces for sale (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:55:38 -0700
I have a set of these tires with out 1/2 there life left. These would be perfect national tires for someone. Make an offer! You pay shipping. I could deliver at Nationals or Boise Divisional. --JCG
/html/autox/1999-08/msg00517.html (6,355 bytes)

35. Re: G-Force Tires for Sale (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:53:10 -0700
This sounds like my tires ;-). Mine have about 1/2 there life left. Make an offer. Can deliver to Nats. --JCG Joe Goeke Team Butt Heat AS BMW Z3 2.8 Coupe -- Original Message -- From: Jim Zeisler <ze
/html/autox/1999-08/msg00611.html (7,087 bytes)

36. Re: Cooling Beer on Grid (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:08:31 -0700
AS competitors taking about cooling beer on grid??? I _knew_ I'd like this class ;-) --JCG
/html/autox/1999-08/msg00856.html (8,253 bytes)

37. Re: Miata weights (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:11:02 -0700
About 100 lbs similarly
/html/autox/1999-08/msg00857.html (7,663 bytes)

38. Re: M3 LTW...? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:00:28 -0700
Why not simply list them both in CSP on separate lines? Course, I don't think the M3 belongs in CSP in the first place. ....looks like an ESP car, smells like an ESP car,... must be an ESP car ;-) --
/html/autox/1999-08/msg01274.html (7,155 bytes)

39. 245/45-16 G-forces for sale! (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:27:33 -0700
Great national tires for someone... as long as you are not running in AS ;-) ;-). This set of four tires have about 1/2 there life left in them. I ran them at the San Diego NT and San Berno Pro, both
/html/autox/1999-08/msg01275.html (6,520 bytes)

40. Re: Type R: G Stock in 2000? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:26:46 -0700
So where would you put them? DS? They would rull DS, and any higher of a class would be a real mismatch of car type. DS is a cheap class compared to the entry price of the Talon/Type-R but it's basic
/html/autox/1999-08/msg01388.html (8,480 bytes)


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