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Last fall, during Hot August Nights, Barrett-Jackson held an auction =
here in Reno for the first time. I hired on as a driver. A fellow =
brought a 23 window bus from Arizona. The one thing that BJ is =
stringent about is VIN numbers. I saw cars turned away because the VIN =
Number plate rivets were suspicious. Well, I was a part of the team =
that practically tore that bus apart. No data plate, no way to confirm =
VIN. BJ called the man and told him to pick up his bus. Turns out =
during the restoration he removed the VW VIN and forgot to put it back. =
He called a guy from his shop who flew into Reno and they installed the =
plate. The bus went for $135.000.
Gene
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Steve Kirby=20
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:34 PM
Subject: [Zmagnette] NOW: how to set the market for our cars at $45K: =
EASY
regarding Steve's comments about the VW 23 window "busses". Yes, the =
incredible, and very quick rise in prices, can be directly attributed to =
the day one sold at Barrett Jackson for (sit down, please), $197,000 + =
fees. That one I saw, via TV, with my own two eyes. I've since heard =
that at another sale, about a year later, went $297,000 + fees. That =
last one, I've only "heard", not confirmed, and somewhat doubt its =
truth. Regardless, since then, "bus" prices have been ridiculous. =20
Listen and follow carefully: It is to each of our best interests to =
drive up the price . . . . right? So, think about your Magnette being =
worth say $45,000 at auction. Easy enough. There are how many in our =
group . . . about a hundred? We each give Allen, or better yet ME!!!!, =
a donation of $500. By advanced calculus, that's $50K. Next decent one =
that comes up, I bid $50K. Now, the market has been set at $50K, and it =
only cost you $500!!!! Such a deal!!!!! I'll even give you rides at =
the next NAMGAR event.
#2SteveK=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Steve Hanegan=20
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] 1958 MG Magnet 20000
Yes, the auctions are an expensive way to sell a car. Getting a car =
registered, transportation and the fees charge to both the seller and =
the buyer are quite eye watering unless you have a highly sought after =
car such as a 23 window VW van or a Ferrari or similar. I have a friend =
who has a very nice mid '90s Jag XJ6R. This is a very nice car, great =
condition, well looked after, runs perfectly etc. Mark took his car to a =
local "collector car" dealer who takes cars to local auctions. Mark =
ended up incurring about $1500 in fees trying to peddle the Jag at $10K =
- with no sale. The dealer charged $400 to "detail" a car that had just =
had an expensive detail just prior to it being listed added storage and =
"processing" fees etc.=20
But, auctions DO tend to set "market values" and drive cars to a =
higher value. I have another friend who has an absolute jewell of a 1970 =
split bumper MGB. The evaluation guides, such as Sports Car Market, KBB =
Classic, Hagerty etc. indicate that this should be a $14K - $18K car. =
Advertising and trying to sell it around here at $10K, in winter, has =
resulted in not one single nibble. My suggestion would be to advertise =
the car to the widest audience possible and be patient. Websites such as =
The MG Experience, NAMGAR's website (and print) and NAMGBR's site point =
the car to the widest possible audience - of targeted buyers - folks who =
are already knowledgeable and interested in MGs, seems prudent. Showing =
the car at local British Car shows and at local club events and in local =
club newsletters can often be effective as well.
The biggest problem with Magnettes is A) the lack of "comps" and B) =
relatively few folks know what a good car they are - with a resulting =
lack of solid demand. I would hate to be the one to have to be the =
benchmark or trendsetter! I guess that part of our task as the leading =
Magnette support group would be to publicize the cars as much as =
possible (establishing desirability) and to support and publicize any of =
the sales that result in an appropriate sale price and "real" value for =
the cars (helping to establish value). We should cheer and encourage =
every sale of $20K+ if that is the direction we would like to see values =
go. Even so, $20K isn't anywhere near what it takes to create a good =
solid "ready to drive" Magnette from some of the starting points that I =
see for sale. That being said, I would also point out that every time we =
see something that is for sale, we seem to knock it down on the details =
or price. The motivation for a seller is far different than that for a =
buyer. We should cheer every car that sells (cowboy blanket upholstery =
notwithstanding), because every one that does sell helps to increase the =
value of our cars when It is time for us to sell. (Cowboy blanket sold =
for $12K - mine is "original" and "correct" for $20K and that is why you =
should buy it...)
We really do only have two options: either we establish a price that =
we would like to see for our car and be prepared to wait (maybe years) =
until some buyer agrees, or, find someone who is willing to buy the car =
and be prepared to accept whatever they offer for it. Sad choices =
indeed.
I do happen to know of a great British Car show with a great "Car =
for Sale" section that averages about 50% of cars sold... it is in July =
(great time to take advantage of the summer weather)... I will say that =
any Magnetteer trying to sell their car at the Western Washington All =
British Field Meet will get a screaming good deal from the organizer... =
and full support and help from the organizer... and maybe even a free =
lunch (great bratwurst!)... all you have to do is show up at St. Edward =
State Park on Saturday, July 26th and tell them you know Steve H. and =
have a personal invite...
Steve H.
On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:06 PM, John Park <jpark@bmts.com> wrote:
Well I=92ve thought of the auction route but pretty much all of =
the bigger ones are several days drive away. To ship the car, especially =
at this time of year is into 4 figures and then there is the auction =
house fees which cut into the final sale price. So is it worth trying to =
go that route to =93establish=94 a value or just move the car for what =
you can get if you don=92t want to hang on for years until someone =
decides you do have a nice car?
From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net =
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Hanegan
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:24 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet 20000
This is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably =
not, but if it drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a =
good deal for the buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for =
this price, even if you are starting with a good solid car. I question =
whether there is a market that will step in and buy a car like this at =
this price. I am at a loss on how we as Magnette owners can create a =
market for good clean cars like this one. A Mk II Jag in this condition =
would have no problem reaching $30K - $35K at auction because of the =
reputation and mystique of Jaguar, though these prices have remained =
pretty constant over the past 10 years or so. Though it lacks the =
torquey 6 and top notch brakes of the Jag, the Magnette is still a very =
solid car with better than average handling characteristics and a very =
posh and cozy interior. I would speculate that having a few more =
"finished" cars sell, and perhaps, sell at one of the more prominent =
Auctions such as Barret Jackson, would increase the public awareness =
and demand for our cars. Without demand, there really isn't any value, =
and demand can't be built on $2K projects.
I am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our =
cars - holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the =
market will come up far enough to make this more of a typical value.
Steve H.
On Jan 12, 2014, at 10:54 AM, John Marcell <MG1948@verizon.net> =
wrote:
Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. Even I =
don't think you could do one with you doing all the work today.
Phil
Begin forwarded message:
From: Gary Sandusky <gary@sandusky.cc>
Subject: 1958 MG Magnet 20000
Date: January 11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST
To: Phil Marcell <MG1948@verizon.net>
Take a look at this Magnet.=20
Gary
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Last fall, during Hot August Nights,=20
Barrett-Jackson held an auction here in Reno for the first time. I =
hired=20
on as a driver. A fellow brought a 23 window bus from =
Arizona. The=20
one thing that BJ is stringent about is VIN numbers. I saw cars =
turned=20
away because the VIN Number plate rivets were suspicious. Well, I =
was a=20
part of the team that practically tore that bus apart. No data =
plate, no=20
way to confirm VIN. BJ called the man and told him to pick up his=20
bus. Turns out during the restoration he removed the VW VIN and =
forgot to=20
put it back. He called a guy from his shop who flew into Reno and they =
installed=20
the plate. The bus went for $135.000.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gene</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dskirby210@cox.net href=3D"mailto:skirby210@cox.net";>Steve =
Kirby</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dzmagnette@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>List for the Z Magnette Group =
- North=20
America</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 12, 2014 =
2:34=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Zmagnette] NOW: how =
to set the=20
market for our cars at $45K: EASY</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>regarding Steve's comments about the VW 23 window "busses". =
Yes,=20
the incredible, and very quick rise in prices, can be directly =
attributed to=20
the day one sold at Barrett Jackson for (sit down, please), $197,000 + =
fees. That one I saw, via TV, with my own two eyes. I've =
since=20
heard that at another sale, about a year later, went $297,000=20
+ fees. That last one, I've only "heard", not confirmed, =
and=20
somewhat doubt its truth. Regardless, since then, "bus" prices =
have been=20
ridiculous. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Listen and follow carefully: It is to each of our best =
interests to=20
drive up the price . . . . right? So, think about your Magnette =
being=20
worth say $45,000 at auction. Easy enough. There are how =
many in=20
our group . . . about a hundred? We each give Allen, or better =
yet=20
ME!!!!, a donation of $500. By advanced calculus, that's =
$50K. =20
Next decent one that comes up, I bid $50K. Now, the market has =
been set=20
at $50K, and it only cost you $500!!!! Such a deal!!!!! =
I'll even=20
give you rides at the next NAMGAR event.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>#2SteveK </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsteve@betterwitnesses.com=20
href=3D"mailto:steve@betterwitnesses.com";>Steve Hanegan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dzmagnette@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North=20
America</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 12, =
2014 1:53=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] 1958 =
MG Magnet=20
20000</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Yes, the auctions are an expensive way to sell a car. =
Getting=20
a car registered, transportation and the fees charge to both the =
seller and=20
the buyer are quite eye watering unless you have a highly sought =
after car=20
such as a 23 window VW van or a Ferrari or similar. I have a =
friend=20
who has a very nice mid '90s Jag XJ6R. This is a <U>very</U> nice =
car, great=20
condition, well looked after, runs perfectly etc. Mark took his car =
to a=20
local "collector car" dealer who takes cars to local auctions. Mark =
ended up=20
incurring about $1500 in fees trying to peddle the Jag at $10K - =
with no=20
sale. The dealer charged $400 to "detail" a car that had just had an =
expensive detail just prior to it being listed added storage and=20
"processing" fees etc.=20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>But, auctions DO tend to set "market values" and drive cars to =
a higher=20
value. I have another friend who has an absolute jewell of a 1970 =
split=20
bumper MGB. The evaluation guides, such as Sports Car Market, KBB =
Classic,=20
Hagerty etc. indicate that this should be a $14K - $18K car. =
Advertising and=20
trying to sell it around here at $10K, in winter, has resulted in =
not one=20
single nibble. My suggestion would be to advertise the car to the =
widest=20
audience possible and be patient. Websites such as The MG =
Experience,=20
NAMGAR's website (and print) and NAMGBR's site point the car to the =
widest=20
possible audience - of targeted buyers - folks who are already =
knowledgeable=20
and interested in MGs, seems prudent. Showing the car at local =
British Car=20
shows and at local club events and in local club newsletters can =
often be=20
effective as well.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The biggest problem with Magnettes is A) the lack of "comps" =
and B)=20
relatively few folks know what a good car they are - with a =
resulting lack=20
of solid demand. I would hate to be the one to have to be the =
benchmark or=20
trendsetter! I guess that part of our task as the leading Magnette =
support=20
group would be to publicize the cars as much as possible =
(establishing=20
desirability) and to support and publicize any of the sales that =
result in=20
an appropriate sale price and "real" value for the cars (helping to=20
establish value). We should cheer and encourage every sale of $20K+ =
if that=20
is the direction we would like to see values go. Even so, $20K isn't =
anywhere near what it takes to create a good solid "ready to drive" =
Magnette=20
from some of the starting points that I see for sale. That being =
said, I=20
would also point out that every time we see something that is for =
sale, we=20
seem to knock it down on the details or price. The motivation for a =
seller=20
is far different than that for a buyer. We should cheer every car =
that sells=20
(cowboy blanket upholstery notwithstanding), because every one that =
does=20
sell helps to increase the value of our cars when It is time for us =
to sell.=20
(Cowboy blanket sold for $12K - mine is "original" and "correct" for =
$20K=20
and that is why you should buy it...)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>We really do only have two options: either we establish a price =
that we=20
would like to see for our car and be prepared to wait (maybe years) =
until=20
some buyer agrees, or, find someone who is willing to buy the car =
and be=20
prepared to accept whatever they offer for it. Sad choices =
indeed.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I do happen to know of a great British Car show with a great =
"Car for=20
Sale" section that averages about 50% of cars sold... it is in July =
(great=20
time to take advantage of the summer weather)... I will say that any =
Magnetteer trying to sell their car at the Western Washington All =
British=20
Field Meet will get a screaming good deal from the organizer... and =
full=20
support and help from the organizer... and maybe even a free lunch =
(great=20
bratwurst!)... all you have to do is show up at St. Edward State =
Park on=20
Saturday, July 26th and tell them you know Steve H. and have a =
personal=20
invite...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Steve H.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:06 PM, John Park <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jpark@bmts.com";>jpark@bmts.com</A>> =
wrote:</DIV><BR=20
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Well=20
I=92ve thought of the auction route but pretty much all of the =
bigger ones=20
are several days drive away. To ship the car, especially at this =
time of=20
year is into 4 figures and then there is the auction house fees =
which cut=20
into the final sale price. So is it worth trying to go that route =
to=20
=93establish=94 a value or just move the car for what you can get =
if you don=92t=20
want to hang on for years until someone decides you do have a nice =
car?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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=
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>zmagnette-bounces@autox.=
team.net</A><SPAN=20
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Hanegan<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN=20
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2014 3:24=20
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the Z Magnette Group - North America<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: =
1958 MG=20
Magnet 20000<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This=20
is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably not, =
but if=20
it drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a good deal =
for the=20
buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for this price, =
even if=20
you are starting with a good solid car. I question whether there =
is a=20
market that will step in and buy a car like this at this price. I =
am at a=20
loss on how we as Magnette owners can create a market for good =
clean cars=20
like this one. A Mk II Jag in this condition would have no =
problem=20
reaching $30K - $35K at auction because of the reputation and =
mystique of=20
Jaguar, though these prices have remained pretty constant over the =
past 10=20
years or so. Though it lacks the torquey 6 and top notch brakes of =
the=20
Jag, the Magnette is still a very solid car with better than =
average=20
handling characteristics and a very posh and cozy interior. I =
would=20
speculate that having a few more "finished" cars sell, and =
perhaps, sell=20
at one of the more prominent Auctions such as Barret Jackson, =
would=20
increase the public awareness and demand for our cars. =
Without=20
demand, there really isn't any value, and demand can't be built on =
$2K=20
projects.<O:P></O:P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV=20
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serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I=20
am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our =
cars -=20
holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the market =
will=20
come up far enough to make this more of a typical=20
value.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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H.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. Even I =
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think you could do one with you doing all the work=20
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13.5pt">From:<SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">Gary=20
Sandusky <<A style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: =
underline"=20
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serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
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13.5pt">Subject:=20
1958 MG Magnet 20000</SPAN></B><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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13.5pt">Date:<SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
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11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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13.5pt">Phil=20
Marcell <<A style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: =
underline"=20
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