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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] CL Magnette <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:57:48 -0400
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I'm not very excited about faux Varitones, but if the description and =
pictures are really accurate, you can bet the seller has a good deal =
more than $19,500 invested in the car. I would not sell mine for that =
price, and John, you shouldn't either.  Most of us bought our cars ten =
or more years ago and we're accustomed to cheap cars not particularly =
prized by other collectors.  Haven't times changed?  I have no delusions =
about getting a return on our investments but with MGAs going through =
the roof, it appears that there are Z Magnette buyers out there in the =
$20K price range.

Yeah, I could pick on this car a little - but not much! I don't care for =
the refinishing job on the dash; question the glovebox door handle and =
steering-wheel medallion colors (is this original to a few cars?); and =
it looks like the door pulls came off the "Help" rack at a local Advance =
Auto store.  But these are small concerns.  And besides that, who am I =
to pick on originality!!! To get this final result, this car has been =
completely disassembled.  You have a Magnette that looks this good =
except the engine bay?  Try to get your engine bay to look this good, =
and you'll quickly discover the value in this car!=20

For members looking for cars, keep in mind that John Park's beautiful =
freshly-restored example is still for sale in Southampton, Ontario, and =
while not advertised, Jeff Powell's elegant older restoration was still =
for sale in Chicago last I heard.  I first saw Jeff's car at Twist's in =
1989.  As I see it, that car is the grand progenitor, the inspiration - =
directly or indirectly, known or unknown - for all our restoration =
efforts.  It is a "milestone" among our cars, and had I the money to own =
two restored Magnettes, this is the one I'd buy.  I last saw it at GT35 =
and it still looked just about perfect. As with any older restoration, =
it might require a bit of tweaking to achieve its legendary reliability, =
but it's a buy. =20

All FWIW,
Allen
****************************************************************
Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:32 AM, charles durning wrote:

> I hope he gets it also.  We need to keep the value of our cars on the =
rise.
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> Charlie Durning
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> If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is watching.
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> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:12 AM, James Schulte <schultejim@yahoo.com> =
wrote:
> Looks like a 19,000 dollar car to me. Beautiful. Hope they get it.
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> > On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:28 PM, John Shoemaker <johnshoe@comcast.net> =
wrote:
> >
> >         Magnette for sale on Raleigh Craigs List.  A bit pricey I =
believe.
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm =
not very excited about faux Varitones, but if the description and =
pictures are really accurate, you can bet the seller has a good deal =
more than $19,500 invested in the car. I would not sell mine for that =
price, and John, you shouldn't either. &nbsp;Most of us bought our cars =
ten or more years ago and we're accustomed to cheap cars not =
particularly prized by other collectors. &nbsp;Haven't times changed? =
&nbsp;I have no delusions about getting a return on our investments but =
with MGAs going through the roof, it appears that there are Z Magnette =
buyers out there in the $20K price range.<div><br></div><div>Yeah, I =
could pick on this car a little - but not much! I don't care for the =
refinishing job on the dash; question the glovebox door handle and =
steering-wheel medallion colors (is this original to a few cars?); and =
it looks like the door pulls came off the "Help" rack at a local Advance =
Auto store. &nbsp;But these are small concerns. &nbsp;And besides that, =
who am I to pick on originality!!! To get this final result, this car =
has been completely disassembled. &nbsp;You have a Magnette that looks =
this good except the engine bay? &nbsp;Try to get your engine bay to =
look this good, and you'll quickly discover the value in this =
car!&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>For members looking for cars, keep =
in mind that John Park's beautiful freshly-restored example is still for =
sale in Southampton, Ontario, and while not advertised, Jeff Powell's =
elegant older restoration was still for sale in Chicago last I heard. =
&nbsp;I first saw Jeff's car at Twist's in 1989. &nbsp;As I see it, that =
car is the grand progenitor, the inspiration - directly or indirectly, =
known or unknown - for all our restoration efforts. &nbsp;It is a =
"milestone" among our cars, and had I the money to own two restored =
Magnettes, this is the one I'd buy. &nbsp;I last saw it at GT35 and it =
still looked just about perfect. As with any older restoration, it might =
require a bit of tweaking to achieve its legendary reliability, but it's =
a buy. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>All =
FWIW,</div><div>Allen</div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:32 AM, charles durning =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">I hope he gets it also.&nbsp; We need to keep the value of =
our cars on the rise.<br clear=3D"all">
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<div>Charlie Durning</div>
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<div><font size=3D"4">If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is =
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:12 AM, James =
Schulte <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:schultejim@yahoo.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">schultejim@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Looks like a 19,000 dollar =
car to me. Beautiful. Hope they get it.<br><br>Sent from my iPad<br>
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<div class=3D"h5"><br>&gt; On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:28 PM, John Shoemaker =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:johnshoe@comcast.net";>johnshoe@comcast.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Magnette for sale on =
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