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After the issues I was having with a j type transmission I=E2=80=99ll never=
use
anything other than MT-90(thanks Jay) I had previously used straight 30
weight non detergent oil and 20/50 pennsgrade and had issues. It cleared up
the overdrive issue and haven=E2=80=99t had any problems since.
On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:59 PM Jay Galbreath via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> In the early 80=E2=80=99s BL Factory recommended that all Triumph (Rover)=
5 speed
> trannys have ATF. I still recommend 30 weight non-detergent oil for a B
> tranny. . Jay
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:53 AM JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <
> wpta@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear
>> oil. Switched to ATF and the issue was gone. I don't know how many tim=
es
>> I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up. Ran
>> into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD. The TR8 gets GM syncromes=
h
>> fluid which is a light viscosity. ATF works as well and many use that.
>> Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it get=
s
>> hot.
>> Jim
>>
>> On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:
>> And, by the way, when=E2=80=99s the last time it=E2=80=99s been changed?=
=E2=80=9CDirt is the
>> enemy of all machinery=E2=80=9D
>>
>> Ed Woods
>>
>>
>> People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have >
>> nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosi=
ty
>> > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were =
new
>> oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was
>> used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light
>> weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are
>> designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces.
>> Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using
>> ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires=
,
>> using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes.
>> These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had o=
ver
>> 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no
>> evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil
>> engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass.
>> The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better th=
an
>> any engine oil.
>> Ralph Steinberg
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">After the issues I was having with a j type transmission =
I=E2=80=99ll never use anything other than MT-90(thanks Jay) I had previous=
ly used straight 30 weight non detergent oil and 20/50 pennsgrade and had i=
ssues. It cleared up the overdrive issue and haven=E2=80=99t had any proble=
ms since.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:59 PM Jay Galbreath via Wpta <<=
a href=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.net";>wpta@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir=3D"auto">In the early 80=E2=80=99s BL Fact=
ory recommended that all Triumph (Rover) 5 speed trannys have ATF. I still =
recommend 30 weight non-detergent =C2=A0oil for a B tranny. . Jay</div><div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Su=
n, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:53 AM JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <<a href=3D"mailto:wpt=
a@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">wpta@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-co=
lor:rgb(204,204,204)"><u></u>
=20
=20
=20
<div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I found that in my =
MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear oil.=C2=A0 Switched to=
ATF and the issue was gone.=C2=A0 I don't know how many times I had th=
e engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.=C2=A0 Ran into t=
he same issue on a friends 79B with OD.=C2=A0 The TR8 gets GM syncromesh fl=
uid which is a light viscosity.=C2=A0 ATF works as well and many use that.=
=C2=A0 Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it=
gets hot.=C2=A0=C2=A0</span></div></div><div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;=
font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">
</div>=20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Jim</span>
</div>=20
<blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
<div>
On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <<a href=3D"mailto:w=
pta@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">wpta@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
</div>=20
<div>
=C2=A0
</div>=20
<div>
=C2=A0
</div>=20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">
For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:
</div>=20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">
And, by the way, when=E2=80=99s the last time it=E2=80=99s been changed=
? =E2=80=9CDirt is the enemy of all machinery=E2=80=9D
</div>=20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">
=C2=A0
</div>=20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">
Ed Woods
</div>=20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">
=C2=A0
</div>=20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">
=C2=A0
</div>=20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">
People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have >=
nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity=
> {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were=
new oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil wa=
s=C2=A0 used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Lig=
ht=C2=A0 weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oil=
s are designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces.=
Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using an=
cient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires, usi=
ng poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes. These=
use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over 30,0=
00 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no eviden=
ce of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil engineer =
in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass. The light w=
eight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than any engine =
oil.=20
<br>Ralph Steinberg
</div>=20
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