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It's from the Roy Miller collection y'know. Needs a bit of work by Jimmy Ma=
c, I suspect. But Jimmy's taken of worse projects.
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> On October 29, 2018 at 4:56 PM Jerry Van Vlack via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.=
net> wrote:
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> I looked at the Craigslist ad and don=E2=80=99t think that car is wor=
th much, certainly not $1500. An in person inspection might say otherwise b=
ut I doubt it. If a longtime PA car it=E2=80=99s full of rust.
> JVV
> =20
> From: Gary Fredo
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 1:14 PM
> To: P J Wright
> Cc: Jerry Van Vlack ; John Styduhar ; Bruce Stutzman ; wpta@autox.tea=
m.net
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Fwd: Holzworth Estate Auction
> =20
> There is also a 67 TR4 on Craigslist for $1,500 that seems like a muc=
h better deal. It sounds like the seller is looking to move it fast. It w=
ould be tempting to go look at it if I had space for it.
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> From: P J Wright <pj.wright@verizon.net>
> To: Gary Fredo <garyfredo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>; John Styduhar <johnstyd=
o@gmail.com>; Bruce Stutzman <stutztr4@gmail.com>; "wpta@autox.team.net" <w=
pta@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Fwd: Holzworth Estate Auction
> =20
> Ray Stockdale said all three sold for about $4000 total. Wray was the=
re also so we know the two numbers are telling . Certainly $16000 sounds l=
ike hedge fund selling!!!
> PJ
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 29, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Gary Fredo via Wpta < wpta@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
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> > > My guess is a lot less than $16,000. Someone trying =
to make a killing on someone else's misfortune.
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> > From: Jerry Van Vlack via Wpta < wpta@autox.team.net>
> > To: John Styduhar < johnstydo@gmail.com>; Bruce Stutzman < stut=
ztr4@gmail.com>
> > Cc: wpta@autox.team.net
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 10:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WPTA] Fwd: Holzworth Estate Auction
> > =20
> > Not worth that even in pieces, whoever bought these is nuts.
> > Any idea what they paid for them?
> > JVV
> > =20
> > From: John Styduhar via Wpta
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 9:43 AM
> > To: Bruce Stutzman
> > Cc: wpta@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [WPTA] Fwd: Holzworth Estate Auction
> > =20
> > =20
> > I saw this ad on craiglist in Washington, PA for the sale of th=
e 3 TRs for $16,000 - same cars as the Holzworth Estate Auction.
> > https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/d/three-old-triumph-tr3-c=
ars/6730039276.html
> > =20
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 9:10 PM Bruce Stutzman via Wpta < wpta@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
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> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > From: PJ Wright <pj.wright@verizon.net>
> > > Date: Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 7:18 PM
> > > Subject: Holzworth Estate Auction
> > > To: Bruce Stutzman < stutztr4@gmail.com>, Ed Major < ejma=
jortr3a@comcast.net>, jim Keenan < mij57@msn.com>
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > The Holzworth Estate Auction will be held on Saturday Sep=
tember 29 at 10:00 am, at 328 School House Road in Waynesburg. Included i=
n the estate sale are three TR 3=E2=80=99s in probably poor condition along=
with body tools and equipment. If you are interested look up this auction=
on Google for more detail
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> > > Bruce, can you send this our this week to the members or =
just let anyone you know about this sale. I am not able to go due to a pre=
vious commitment.
> > > I saw these cars several years ago and if my memory serve=
s me right one a small mouth. Ray Stockdale thinks they are mostly junk by=
now but who knows.
> > > PJ
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">It's from the Roy Miller collection =
y'know. Needs a bit of work by Jimmy Mac, I suspect.  But Jimmy=
9;s taken of worse projects.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: h=
elvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 5=
1, 51);">Ed2</p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On October 29, 2018 at 4:56 PM Je=
rry Van Vlack via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net> wrote: <br> <br><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Calibri'; color: #0=
00000;"><div>I looked at the Craigslist ad and don’t think that car i=
s worth much, certainly not $1500. An in person inspection might say otherw=
ise but I doubt it. If a longtime PA car it’s full of rust. <br>JVV</=
div><div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Ca=
libri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: i=
nline;"><div style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma;"><div> </div><div style=3D"ba=
ckground: #f5f5f5;"><div style=3D"font-color: black;"><strong>From:</strong=
> <a>Gary Fredo</a></div><div><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, October 29, 20=
18 1:14 PM</div><div><strong>To:</strong> <a>P J Wright</a></div><div><stro=
ng>Cc:</strong> <a>Jerry Van Vlack</a> ; <a>John Styduhar</a> ; <a>Bruce St=
utzman</a> ; <a>wpta@autox.team.net</a></div><div><strong>Subject:</strong>=
Re: [WPTA] Fwd: Holzworth Estate Auction</div></div></div><div> </div=
></div><div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display=
: inline;"><div style=3D"font-size: 16px; font-family: helvetica neue, helv=
etica, arial, lucida grande, sans-serif; color: #000; background-color: #ff=
f;"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3223" dir=3D"l=
tr"><span id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3222">There i=
s also a 67 TR4 on Craigslist for $1,500 that seems like a much better deal=
.  It sounds like the seller is looking to move it fast.  It woul=
d be tempting to go look at it if I had space for it.</span></div><div id=
=3D"ox-645bf09939-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3146" class=3D"ox-645bf09=
939-qtdSeparateBR"><br> <br></div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1540833048167_3150" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display=
: block;"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3149" st=
yle=3D"font-size: 16px; font-family: helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, luci=
da grande, sans-serif;"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15408330=
48167_3148" style=3D"font-size: 16px; font-family: helveticaneue, helvetica=
neue, helvetica, arial, lucida grande, sans-serif;"><div id=3D"ox-645bf099=
39-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3147" dir=3D"ltr"><hr id=3D"ox-645bf0993=
9-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3151" size=3D"1"><span id=3D"ox-645bf0993=
9-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3152" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-s=
ize: small;"><strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></stron=
g> P J Wright <pj.wright@verizon.net><br><strong><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight: bold;">To:</span></strong> Gary Fredo <garyfredo@yahoo.com=
2; <br><strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></strong> Jerry=
Van Vlack <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>; John Styduhar <johnstydo@g=
mail.com>; Bruce Stutzman <stutztr4@gmail.com>; "wpta@autox=
.team.net" <wpta@autox.team.net><br><strong><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></strong> Monday, October 29, 2018 12:42 PM<br>=
<strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [WP=
TA] Fwd: Holzworth Estate Auction<br></span></div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3209" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-y_msg_containe=
r"><div> </div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_154083304816=
7_3208">Ray Stockdale said all three sold for about $4000 total. Wray was t=
here also so we know the two numbers are telling .  Certainly $16000 s=
ounds like hedge fund selling!!!<div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1540833048167_3210">PJ <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ox=
-645bf09939-yiv8357698198AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div =
id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yqt46012" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv835769=
8198yqt1669098194"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167=
_3211"><br clear=3D"none">On Oct 29, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Gary Fredo via Wpta=
< <a target=3D"_blank">wpta@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: <br clear=
=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div id=3D"ox=
-645bf09939-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3220"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3219" style=3D"font-size: 16px; font-family=
: helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, lucida grande, sans-serif; color: #0000=
00; background-color: #ffffff;"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3408"><span id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3444">My guess is a lot less than $16,000.=
0; Someone trying to make a killing on someone else's misfortune.</span=
></div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_154082483375=
6_3354" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198qtdSeparateBR"><br clear=3D"non=
e"> <br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3412" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yahoo_quo=
ted" style=3D"display: block;"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3411" style=3D"font-size: 16px; font-family: helv=
etica neue, helvetica, arial, lucida grande, sans-serif;"><div id=3D"ox-645=
bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3410" style=3D"font-si=
ze: 16px; font-family: helveticaneue, helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, luc=
ida grande, sans-serif;"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1540824833756_3409" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv83576981=
98yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3442" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-s=
ize: small;"></span><hr id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1540824833756_3443" size=3D"1"><strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">F=
rom:</span></strong> Jerry Van Vlack via Wpta < <a target=3D"_blank">wp=
ta@autox.team.net</a>> <br clear=3D"none"> <strong><span style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;">To:</span></strong> John Styduhar < <a id=3D"ox-645bf099=
39-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540833048167_3260" target=3D"_blank" class=3D"mce-ite=
m-anchor"></a>johnstydo@gmail.com>; Bruce Stutzman < <a target=3D"_=
blank">stutztr4@gmail.com</a>> <br clear=3D"none"> <strong><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></strong> <a target=3D"_blank">wpta@autox=
.team.net</a> <br clear=3D"none"> <strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;=
">Sent:</span></strong> Monday, October 29, 2018 10:22 AM <br clear=3D"none=
"> <strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></strong> Re: =
[WPTA] Fwd: Holzworth Estate Auction <br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"ox=
-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3420" class=3D"ox-=
645bf09939-yiv8357698198y_msg_container"><div> </div><div id=3D"ox-645=
bf09939-yiv8357698198"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1540824833756_3419" dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3418" dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-y=
iv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3417" style=3D"color: #000000;"=
><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3441=
">Not worth that even in pieces, whoever bought these is nuts.</div><div id=
=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3429">Any id=
ea what they paid for them?</div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3428">JVV</div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357=
698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3416" style=3D"font-size: small; text=
-decoration: none;"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1540824833756_3415" style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma; font-stretch: normal;"><di=
v id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3462">&#=
160;</div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_154082483=
3756_3414" style=3D"background: #f5f5f5;"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv83576=
98198yqtfd49669" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yqt1079070186"><div id=
=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3463"><stron=
g>From:</strong> <a href=3D"wlmailhtml:{1473E4D7-4247-4509-8885-74DB54FCA3E=
4}mid://00000288/">John Styduhar via Wpta</a></div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939=
-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3430"><strong>Sent:</strong> =
Monday, October 29, 2018 9:43 AM</div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv835769819=
8yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3427"><strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"wlma=
ilhtml:{1473E4D7-4247-4509-8885-74DB54FCA3E4}mid://00000288/">Bruce Stutzma=
n</a></div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15408248=
33756_3413"><strong>Cc:</strong> <a href=3D"wlmailhtml:{1473E4D7-4247-4509-=
8885-74DB54FCA3E4}mid://00000288/">wpta@autox.team.net</a></div><div id=3D"=
ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3431"><strong>Su=
bject:</strong> Re: [WPTA] Fwd: Holzworth Estate Auction</div></div></div><=
/div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yqtfd21531" class=3D"ox-645bf099=
39-yiv8357698198yqt1079070186"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3439"> </div></div></div><div id=3D"ox-645bf=
09939-yiv8357698198yqtfd78110" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yqt10790=
70186"> <br></div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1540824833756_3426" style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none;">=
<div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yqtfd68706" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yi=
v8357698198yqt1079070186"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1540824833756_3436" dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv83576981=
98yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3435" dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ox-645bf0993=
9-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3434" dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D=
"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3433" dir=3D"lt=
r"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_34=
52" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198gmail_default" style=3D"font-size: =
small;">I saw this ad on craiglist in Washington, PA for the sale of the 3 =
TRs for $16,000 - same cars as the Holzworth Estate Auction.</div><div id=
=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3432" class=
=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198gmail_default"><a id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv835=
7698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3464" href=3D"https://pittsburgh.cra=
igslist.org/cto/d/three-old-triumph-tr3-cars/6730039276.html" target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noopener">https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/d/three-old-tri=
umph-tr3-cars/6730039276.html</a> <br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></di=
v></div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15408248337=
56_3438"> </div><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1540824833756_3425" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198gmail_quote"><div=
id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3437" dir=
=3D"ltr">On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 9:10 PM Bruce Stutzman via Wpta < <a h=
ref=3D"wlmailhtml:{1473E4D7-4247-4509-8885-74DB54FCA3E4}mid://00000288/">wp=
ta@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: <br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote><div=
id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3423" dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yi=
v8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540824833756_3422" class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv=
8357698198gmail_quote"><div id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1540824833756_3421" dir=3D"ltr">---------- Forwarded message --------- =
<br clear=3D"none">From: <strong class=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198gmail_=
sendername">PJ Wright</strong> <<a href=3D"wlmailhtml:{1473E4D7-4247-45=
09-8885-74DB54FCA3E4}mid://00000288/">pj.wright@verizon.net</a>> <br cl=
ear=3D"none">Date: Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 7:18 PM <br clear=3D"none">Subject:=
Holzworth Estate Auction <br clear=3D"none">To: Bruce Stutzman < <a hr=
ef=3D"wlmailhtml:{1473E4D7-4247-4509-8885-74DB54FCA3E4}mid://00000288/">stu=
tztr4@gmail.com</a>>, Ed Major < <a href=3D"wlmailhtml:{1473E4D7-42=
47-4509-8885-74DB54FCA3E4}mid://00000288/">ejmajortr3a@comcast.net</a>>=
, jim Keenan < <a id=3D"ox-645bf09939-yiv8357698198yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15=
40824833756_3461" href=3D"wlmailhtml:{1473E4D7-4247-4509-8885-74DB54FCA3E4}=
mid://00000288/">mij57@msn.com</a>> <br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=
=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">The Holzworth Estate Auction will be held on =
Saturday September 29 at 10:00 am, at 328 School  House Road in Waynes=
burg.  Included in the estate sale are three TR 3’s in probably =
poor condition along with body tools and equipment.  If you are intere=
sted look up this auction on Google for more detail <br clear=3D"none"> <br=
clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">Bruce, can you send this our this week =
to the members or just let anyone you know about this sale.  I am not =
able to go due to a previous commitment. <br clear=3D"none">I saw these car=
s several years ago and if my memory serves me right one a small mouth.=
0; Ray Stockdale thinks they are mostly junk by now but who knows. <br clea=
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