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Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion

To: Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 17:53:50 -0500
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"How often do you drive through a tunnel?" ...

Really depends on where one lives.  I visited friends last month in the
south of France, one of whom lost his driving privileges for six months
after being caught speeding in one of the several tunnels between Monaco
and =C3=88ze...

That's not a risk here in Saint Louis, though!  :)

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:30=E2=80=AFPM Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonf=
amily.org>
wrote:

> I=E2=80=99ve heard the GPS tunnel argument before and I have to chuckle e=
very
> time=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 How often do you drive through a tunnel? I can saf=
ely say the TR6
> has never been in a tunnel in my  26 years of ownership=E2=80=A6..oops=E2=
=80=A6 I take that
> back=E2=80=A6 it has gone though the tunnel in New Haven that=E2=80=99s a=
bout =C2=BD mile and we
> survived. . Why do you need the speedo in a tunnel? You usually can only =
go
> as fast as the guy in front of you and tunnel speeds typically drop about
> 10 mph as soon as folks get in one. I=E2=80=99m surprised you don=E2=80=
=99t know your speed
> by looking at your tach. If you do go through a tunnel, how long is it? 2
> or 3 miles perhaps. You can=E2=80=99t live without your speedo for 3 mile=
s? And
> again I say=E2=80=A6 look at your tach. Let=E2=80=99s face it, the tunnel=
 argument is weak
> at best.
>
>
>
> Bob Danielson
> TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
> http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
>
>
>
> *From: *TeriAnn J. Wakeman <tjwakeman@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, June 28, 2023 12:52 PM
> *To: *triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject: *Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
>
>
>
> On 6/28/23 4:47 AM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:
>
> I have toyed wit the idea of a GPS conversion =E2=80=93 as you say, they =
are very
> accurate =E2=80=93 but I didn=E2=80=99t like the idea of the speedo dropp=
ing to zero if I
> drove through a tunnel.
>
> I have a VDO GPS speedometer in my 1960 Land Rover. How well it works
> depends on how much of the sky the sender can see. And yes, a road lined =
by
> tall trees with narrows the sensor's view of the sky keeps it from workin=
g
> unless there is a satellite in the open space. I didn't want to drill a
> hole in my roof or compromise door/windscreen seals so mounted mine on th=
e
> windscreen in front of the rear view mirror. So a satellite needs to be i=
n
> front of me for the GPS to work. How well a GPS speedo works is determine=
d
> by how much sky it can see. My mounting it inside on the windscreen I
> severely limited what my sensor can see.
>
> On the other hand, the GPS has allowed me to determine speed by watching
> the tach, so when my GPS cannot see a sat, I look at the tach to determin=
e
> my speed.
>
> TeriAnn
>
>
>
> Your gauges look great =E2=80=93 I have just ordered a set of magnolia ga=
uges with
> leds from West Valley.
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, MI
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>
> <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob Danielson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:27 PM
> *To:* jhmdds@aol.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
>
>
>
> One of the projects I never documented on my web site was the conversion
> of my tach to electronic and my speedo to GPS back in 2013. I sent both
> stock gauges to Morris at West Valley and he not only converted them but =
he
> had his =E2=80=9Cartist=E2=80=9D repaint the faces Magnolia.  The speedo =
now has GPS
> innards, a power lead and an antenna (hidden under the ashtray). I=E2=80=
=99ve
> tracked the speed against both my Garmin GPS and Waze and it=E2=80=99s sp=
ot on
> perfect. The beauty of a GPS speedo is there=E2=80=99s no need for a tran=
ny cable
> and it doesn=E2=80=99t care about the rear end ratio or your tire size=E2=
=80=A6.. it just
> tracks you in real time.
>
>
>
> Bob Danielson
> TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
> http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
>
>
>
> *From: *jhmdds@aol.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 27, 2023 10:37 AM
> *To: *triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject: *[TR] Speedo Conversion
>
>
>
> "
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I'm looking for recommendations for converting the speedometer on my '75
> TR6 with the Toyota 5 speed transmission to an electronic style.
> Alternatively I'm looking for a 90 degree drive angle connector from the
> transmission to the speedo cable.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
>
>
> James Maddox
>
> ")
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-size:small">&quot;How often do you drive through a tunnel?&quot; ...<br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Really depends on where o=
ne lives.=C2=A0 I visited friends last month in the south of France, one of=
 whom lost his driving privileges=C2=A0for six months after being caught sp=
eeding in one of the several tunnels between Monaco and =C3=88ze...</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">That&#39;s not a risk here in =
Saint Louis, though!=C2=A0 :)</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:30=E2=80=AFPM =
Bob Danielson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org";>75tr6@tr=
6.danielsonfamily.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg121133253572894127"><div lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"m_121133253572894127W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve heard the GPS tunnel argum=
ent before and I have to chuckle every time=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 How often do =
you drive through a tunnel? I can safely say the TR6 has never been in a tu=
nnel in my=C2=A0 26 years of ownership=E2=80=A6..oops=E2=80=A6 I take that =
back=E2=80=A6 it has gone though the tunnel in New Haven that=E2=80=99s abo=
ut =C2=BD mile and we survived. . Why do you need the speedo in a tunnel? Y=
ou usually can only go as fast as the guy in front of you and tunnel speeds=
 typically drop about 10 mph as soon as folks get in one. I=E2=80=99m surpr=
ised you don=E2=80=99t know your speed by looking at your tach. If you do g=
o through a tunnel, how long is it? 2 or 3 miles perhaps. You can=E2=80=99t=
 live without your speedo for 3 miles? And again I say=E2=80=A6 look at you=
r tach. Let=E2=80=99s face it, the tunnel argument is weak at best. =C2=A0<=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bo=
b Danielson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br><a h=
ref=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm"; target=3D"_blank=
">http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</a></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bott=
om:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt =
0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: =
</b><a href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">TeriAnn J. Wak=
eman</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, June 28, 2023 12:52 PM<br><b>To: </b><a=
 href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.t=
eam.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion</p></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 6/28/=
23 4:47 AM, auprichard <a href=3D"http://uprichard.net"; target=3D"_blank">u=
prichard.net</a> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-=
top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have toyed wit the idea=
 of a GPS conversion =E2=80=93 as you say, they are very accurate =E2=80=93=
 but I didn=E2=80=99t like the idea of the speedo dropping to zero if I dro=
ve through a tunnel.<u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><p>I have a VDO GPS spee=
dometer in my 1960 Land Rover. How well it works depends on how much of the=
 sky the sender can see. And yes, a road lined by tall trees with narrows t=
he sensor&#39;s view of the sky keeps it from working unless there is a sat=
ellite in the open space. I didn&#39;t want to drill a hole in my roof or c=
ompromise door/windscreen seals so mounted mine on the windscreen in front =
of the rear view mirror. So a satellite needs to be in front of me for the =
GPS to work. How well a GPS speedo works is determined by how much sky it c=
an see. My mounting it inside on the windscreen I severely limited what my =
sensor can see.</p><p>On the other hand, the GPS has allowed me to determin=
e speed by watching the tach, so when my GPS cannot see a sat, I look at th=
e tach to determine my speed.</p><p>TeriAnn</p><blockquote style=3D"margin-=
top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">Your gauges look great =E2=80=93 I have just ordered =
a set of magnolia gauges with leds from West Valley.<u></u><u></u></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Andrew Upr=
ichard<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jackson, MI<u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border-r=
ight:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,=
225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">&lt;tr=
iumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Danielson<br>=
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto=
:jhmdds@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">jhmdds@aol.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:tr=
iumphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>=
Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One of the =
projects I never documented on my web site was the conversion of my tach to=
 electronic and my speedo to GPS back in 2013. I sent both stock gauges to =
Morris at West Valley and he not only converted them but he had his =E2=80=
=9Cartist=E2=80=9D repaint the faces Magnolia.=C2=A0 The speedo now has GPS=
 innards, a power lead and an antenna (hidden under the ashtray). I=E2=80=
=99ve tracked the speed against both my Garmin GPS and Waze and it=E2=80=99=
s spot on perfect. The beauty of a GPS speedo is there=E2=80=99s no need fo=
r a tranny cable and it doesn=E2=80=99t care about the rear end ratio or yo=
ur tire size=E2=80=A6.. it just tracks you in real time.<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Da=
nielson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br><a href=
=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm"; target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</a><u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;=
border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);p=
adding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:j=
hmdds@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">jhmdds@aol.com</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday=
, June 27, 2023 10:37 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.tea=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR=
] Speedo Conversion<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;m looki=
ng for recommendations for converting the speedometer on my &#39;75 TR6 wit=
h the Toyota 5 speed transmission to an electronic style.=C2=A0 Alternative=
ly I&#39;m looking for a 90 degree drive angle connector from the transmiss=
ion to the speedo cable. =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks fo=
r the help,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u=
><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">James Maddox<u></u><u></u></p=
></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u><=
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