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MGs (B's anyway) have a spacer between the bearings on the stub axle. So
yes, you crank them down
ptegler
On 2/27/2023 8:28 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the
> ell count. It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being
> more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex & Janet Thomson
> <aljlthomson@charter.net> wrote:
>
> Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! Iâ??ve never done
> any work on an MG but Iâ??ve never heard of a pre-load of 101
> ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about
> 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification
> of â??hand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the
> nearest castellationâ??. Thatâ??s what I have done on all of our cars
> and trucks over the years and it seems to work.
>
> Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a misprint?
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Don Hiscock
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM
> *To:* Philip Ethier
> *Cc:* Triumphs
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a
> bad front wheel bearing?
>
> And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.Â
> I've not quite gotten over that episode yet, Yes, don't fool
> around with wheel bearings!
>
> The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was
> more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded
> bearings. He read this part of the Red Book service instructions
> as 101 lb·ft, not 10 lb·ft. Yikes.
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg
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> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg
>
> This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as
> it turned out. And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that
> led to the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to
> take it into their shop that afternoon while I flew home.
>
> So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences. Take
> care with wheel bearings.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Don't mess with wheel bearings. Get it checked out. I lost a
> wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35â?¯PM Sujit Roy
> <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have a Stag and have checked and changed various
> components like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but
> am still experiencing a vibration, through the
> steering wheel, from the left front wheel only when I'm
> turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly
> bushes.
>
> There is no vibration going straight or when turning right.
>
> I plan to swap the wheel with my spare, but can a bad
> bearing cause these symptoms?
>
> The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.
>
> The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag.
> The hub bearings are tapered.
>
> Sujit
>
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<p>MGs (B's anyway) have a spacer between the bearings on the stub
axle. So yes, you crank them down</p>
<p>ptegler<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/2023 8:28 PM, Don Hiscock
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">It's not a
misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the
ell count. It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or
perhaps being more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft
that led him to see 101.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18
PM Alex & Janet Thomson <<a
href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net"; moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Wow!
That definitely is a car with a broken leg! Iâ??ve
never done any work on an MG but Iâ??ve never heard of
a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings.
All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall H
to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of
â??hand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to
the nearest castellationâ??. Thatâ??s what I have done
on all of our cars and trucks over the years and it
seems to work.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Can
someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just
a misprint?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Alex
Thomson</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif"">
Triumphs [mailto:<a
href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting
indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">And I lost a front wheel on my
TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014. I've not quite
gotten over that episode yet, Yes, don't fool
around with wheel bearings!</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The root cause of my
wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more
used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's
non-preloaded bearings. He read this part of the
Red Book service instructions as 101 lb·ft, not 10
lb·ft. Yikes.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg";
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This happened in western Ohio,
not too far from Macy's Garage as it turned out.Â
And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that
led to the wheel coming off, they know my car and
were able to take it into their shop that
afternoon while I flew home.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">So listen to the voice of two
of us with scary experiences. Take care with
wheel bearings.</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM
Philip Ethier <<a
href="mailto:pethier7@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pethier7@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
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style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in
6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Don't mess with wheel
bearings. Get it checked out. I lost a wheel
on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in
2005.</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at
5:35â?¯PM Sujit Roy <<a
href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
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style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in
6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have a Stag and have
checked and changed various components
like bottom ball joint and top shock
mount, but am still experiencing a
vibration, through the steering wheel,Â
from the left front wheel only when I'm
turning left. The car had been fitted with
all new poly bushes.</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">There is no vibration
going straight or when turning right. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I plan to swap the
wheel with my spare, but can a bad
bearing cause these symptoms?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The hub rotates
smoothly and there is no noise.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The TR6 uses a
similar vertical link setup as the Stag.
The hub bearings are tapered.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sujit <br clear="all">
</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sujit Roy<br>
Cupertino, California</p>
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