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Subject: Re: [TR] GT6 trans bearing noise on launch -
From: aribert neumann <aribertn@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:57:40 -0500
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Edward:  Thank you for your response.   I've been a bit late in responding
- ice storm on Wednesday, we are scheduled to have power back on by
Monday.

You raised a number of valid points that I had not considered.   I was
really hoping that there might be a consensus response that the chipped
layshaft would probably work.

From: Q <HDRider570@att.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] GT6 trans bearing noise on launch -
> Interesting wear on the gear cluster end. I expect that it has worn
> through the (presumably) harden wear surface to the softer material
> underneath.  At a minimum I would fit a hardened shim to bring the
> surface level again.
>
> Looks like odd surface marking on the inner solid bushing as well.  Is
> it just brass or is it oilite material?  They make a kit for the big TR
> gearbox so two bearings can be installed on each end of the gear
> cluster.  The problem would be to find a caged roller with a race that
> would fit (McMaster-Carr?).  You would need to turn the gear cluster to
> fit the outer diameter of the new bearing.  That is not an easy job
> either as the surface of the cluster is hardened to be a bearing race
> for the loose needle bearings.  Please note that if you are using loose
> bearings they come in packs of 50 but you only use 49 of them.
>
> I would not use the chipped cluster.  Too much surface area is missing
> and the harden surface remaining may be detaching form the body.
>
> There was a time when there were some counter shafts that were of
> inferior quality as well.  I don't know if that is still the  case but I
> certainly would not purchase parts from "The lowest bidder" regardless.
>
> Your best bet would be to find a good replacement cluster but GT6 trans
> parts are few and far between.
>
> Please note I am not a professional transmission mechanic, just lending
> my opinion based on personal Triumph experience over the years.
>
>
> Edward Hamer
>
> Petaluma CA
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Edward:=C2=A0 Thank you for your response.=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0I&#39;ve been a bit late in responding - ice storm on Wednesday, we are =
scheduled to have power back on by Monday.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div>=
<div>You raised a number of valid points that I had=C2=A0not considered.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I was really hoping that there might be a consensus response=
 that the chipped layshaft would probably work.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex">From:=C2=A0Q &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:HDRider570@att.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">HDRider570@att.net</a>&gt;=C2=A0<br>Subject:=C2=A0Re: [TR] GT6 trans b=
earing noise on launch -<br>Interesting wear on the gear cluster end. I exp=
ect that it has worn <br>
through the (presumably) harden wear surface to the softer material <br>
underneath.=C2=A0 At a minimum I would fit a hardened shim to bring the <br=
>
surface level again.<br>
<br>
Looks like odd surface marking on the inner solid bushing as well.=C2=A0 Is=
 <br>
it just brass or is it oilite material?=C2=A0 They make a kit for the big T=
R <br>
gearbox so two bearings can be installed on each end of the gear <br>
cluster.=C2=A0 The problem would be to find a caged roller with a race that=
 <br>
would fit (McMaster-Carr?).=C2=A0 You would need to turn the gear cluster t=
o <br>
fit the outer diameter of the new bearing.=C2=A0 That is not an easy job <b=
r>
either as the surface of the cluster is hardened to be a bearing race <br>
for the loose needle bearings.=C2=A0 Please note that if you are using loos=
e <br>
bearings they come in packs of 50 but you only use 49 of them.<br>
<br>
I would not use the chipped cluster.=C2=A0 Too much surface area is missing=
 <br>
and the harden surface remaining may be detaching form the body.<br>
<br>
There was a time when there were some counter shafts that were of <br>
inferior quality as well.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t know if that is still the=C2=A0=
 case but I <br>
certainly would not purchase parts from &quot;The lowest bidder&quot; regar=
dless.<br>
<br>
Your best bet would be to find a good replacement cluster but GT6 trans <br=
>
parts are few and far between.<br>
<br>
Please note I am not a professional transmission mechanic, just lending <br=
>
my opinion based on personal Triumph experience over the years.<br>
<br>
<br>
Edward Hamer<br>
<br>
Petaluma CA<br>
<br>
<br>
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