I have 2 California TR4A bodies only LA area
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> 3. Re: TR 6 evaporative system (DAVID MASSEY)
> 4. TR4 for sale (auprichard@uprichard.net)
> 5. Re: Triumphs Digest, Vol 14, Issue 170 (Anthony Rhodes)
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> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 18:01:57 +0000 (UTC)
> From: davgil@aol.com
> To: "dave1massey@cs.com" <dave1massey@cs.com>, "fishplate@gmail.com"
> <fishplate@gmail.com>
> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
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> Hooked everything back up and went for a drive.? No leaks and no?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: davgil@aol.com <davgil@aol.com>; fishplate@gmail.com <fishplate@gmail.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2021 12:25 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> My experience is that if the valve is energized while the engine is running
> the care will not idle or will idle very poorly at best.? Do you have any
> such symptoms?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: davgil@aol.com
> To: dave1massey@cs.com <dave1massey@cs.com>; fishplate@gmail.com
> <fishplate@gmail.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2021 10:51 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> Thanks Dave and Jeff.??I think that while the vent line may be partially
> blocked, it is sufficiently open to pass vapor and fuel.? I think that Jeff
> may have hit on the problem being the anit-run on valve.? ?I was working on
> the fuel system, I think that I have inadvertently knocked a couple of
> connections off of the oil pressure sending unit.? My gauge registers oil
> pressure properly, and that wire was not disconnected.? However, if I put the
> two wires back on one way, the oil pressure warning light comes on and stays
> on.? This is clearly wrong, so I reversed the wires.? I cannot tell if the
> anti-run on valve is now working properly.? I did note that when one of? the
> wires accidently touched the oil pressure wire, I saw a spark and clearly
> heard a click at the anti-run on valve solenoid.? However, when I connected
> the wire to the other post on the sending unit, I could not hear a click when
> cranking or shutting down the engine.? I have looked through my Haynes
> manual, but don't see
> a diagnostic procedure and the only wiring diagram I have is for a RHD PI
> unit.? Mine is LHD carbureted.? Any advice as to how to verify the correct
> wiring for the anti-run on valve?David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: fishplate@gmail.com <fishplate@gmail.com>; davgil@aol.com <davgil@aol.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 30, 2021 7:36 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> It could be many things.? I had an issue like this but the engine died after
> a few minutes.? When I opened the gas filler there was a great rush of air
> and the tank oil-canned.? My problem turned out to be the vinyl hose leading
> from the trunk area to the engine bar had sagged down and contacted the
> exhaust system and melted shut.
> Make sure your system is per design and not missing something.? There is
> typically a liquid/vapor separator near the tank.? If that was bypassed you
> will get liquid fuel where it shouldn't be.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
> To: davgil@aol.com
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Jul 29, 2021 7:20 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> Is the switch/valve on the bottom of the carbon canister operating correctly?
>
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 3:04 PM <davgil@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just replaced the fuel tank in my 1976 TR6 and after a short drive, I
>> noticed a leak coming from the vent connection on top of the tank.? I
>> tightened the nut on the connection, but don't really understand why there
>> would be gas in the vent line.? I also noticed that when I opened the fuel
>> cap, there was a hiss like a suction.? I feel that either the vent line,
>> which seems open when I blow air through it from the cannister attachment or
>> the carb bowls (ZS 175s) may be too full and there is a vacuum that is
>> pulling fuel out of the bowls.? My TR6 does run rich.? I don't understand
>> why there would be a vacuum in the tank.? Also, I noticed a bit of oil
>> around the oil fill cap which I have never seen before.? I checked the oil
>> and the level seems correct.? I thought I smelled a bit of gas in it, but
>> that may have been a bit of imagination on my part.? Any suggestions would
>> be appreciated.
>> Regards,
>> David Gill
>> 1976 TR6
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> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 18:03:04 +0000 (UTC)
> From: davgil@aol.com
> To: "dave1massey@cs.com" <dave1massey@cs.com>, "fishplate@gmail.com"
> <fishplate@gmail.com>
> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
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> Hooked everything back up and went for a drive.? No leaks and no hiss when I
> opened the cap.? Must have been the wiring and the anti-run on valve must be
> working now.? Thanks for all of your help.David Gill
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: davgil@aol.com <davgil@aol.com>; fishplate@gmail.com <fishplate@gmail.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2021 12:25 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> My experience is that if the valve is energized while the engine is running
> the care will not idle or will idle very poorly at best.? Do you have any
> such symptoms?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: davgil@aol.com
> To: dave1massey@cs.com <dave1massey@cs.com>; fishplate@gmail.com
> <fishplate@gmail.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2021 10:51 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> Thanks Dave and Jeff.??I think that while the vent line may be partially
> blocked, it is sufficiently open to pass vapor and fuel.? I think that Jeff
> may have hit on the problem being the anit-run on valve.? ?I was working on
> the fuel system, I think that I have inadvertently knocked a couple of
> connections off of the oil pressure sending unit.? My gauge registers oil
> pressure properly, and that wire was not disconnected.? However, if I put the
> two wires back on one way, the oil pressure warning light comes on and stays
> on.? This is clearly wrong, so I reversed the wires.? I cannot tell if the
> anti-run on valve is now working properly.? I did note that when one of? the
> wires accidently touched the oil pressure wire, I saw a spark and clearly
> heard a click at the anti-run on valve solenoid.? However, when I connected
> the wire to the other post on the sending unit, I could not hear a click when
> cranking or shutting down the engine.? I have looked through my Haynes
> manual, but don't see
> a diagnostic procedure and the only wiring diagram I have is for a RHD PI
> unit.? Mine is LHD carbureted.? Any advice as to how to verify the correct
> wiring for the anti-run on valve?David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: fishplate@gmail.com <fishplate@gmail.com>; davgil@aol.com <davgil@aol.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 30, 2021 7:36 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> It could be many things.? I had an issue like this but the engine died after
> a few minutes.? When I opened the gas filler there was a great rush of air
> and the tank oil-canned.? My problem turned out to be the vinyl hose leading
> from the trunk area to the engine bar had sagged down and contacted the
> exhaust system and melted shut.
> Make sure your system is per design and not missing something.? There is
> typically a liquid/vapor separator near the tank.? If that was bypassed you
> will get liquid fuel where it shouldn't be.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
> To: davgil@aol.com
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Jul 29, 2021 7:20 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> Is the switch/valve on the bottom of the carbon canister operating correctly?
>
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 3:04 PM <davgil@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just replaced the fuel tank in my 1976 TR6 and after a short drive, I
>> noticed a leak coming from the vent connection on top of the tank.? I
>> tightened the nut on the connection, but don't really understand why there
>> would be gas in the vent line.? I also noticed that when I opened the fuel
>> cap, there was a hiss like a suction.? I feel that either the vent line,
>> which seems open when I blow air through it from the cannister attachment or
>> the carb bowls (ZS 175s) may be too full and there is a vacuum that is
>> pulling fuel out of the bowls.? My TR6 does run rich.? I don't understand
>> why there would be a vacuum in the tank.? Also, I noticed a bit of oil
>> around the oil fill cap which I have never seen before.? I checked the oil
>> and the level seems correct.? I thought I smelled a bit of gas in it, but
>> that may have been a bit of imagination on my part.? Any suggestions would
>> be appreciated.
>> Regards,
>> David Gill
>> 1976 TR6
>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 19:33:27 +0000 (UTC)
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: "davgil@aol.com" <davgil@aol.com>, "fishplate@gmail.com"
> <fishplate@gmail.com>
> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
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> Nothing succeeds like success.? Enjoy.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: davgil@aol.com
> To: dave1massey@cs.com <dave1massey@cs.com>; fishplate@gmail.com
> <fishplate@gmail.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2021 1:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> Hooked everything back up and went for a drive.? No leaks and no hiss when I
> opened the cap.? Must have been the wiring and the anti-run on valve must be
> working now.? Thanks for all of your help.David Gill
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: davgil@aol.com <davgil@aol.com>; fishplate@gmail.com <fishplate@gmail.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2021 12:25 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> My experience is that if the valve is energized while the engine is running
> the care will not idle or will idle very poorly at best.? Do you have any
> such symptoms?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: davgil@aol.com
> To: dave1massey@cs.com <dave1massey@cs.com>; fishplate@gmail.com
> <fishplate@gmail.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2021 10:51 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> Thanks Dave and Jeff.??I think that while the vent line may be partially
> blocked, it is sufficiently open to pass vapor and fuel.? I think that Jeff
> may have hit on the problem being the anit-run on valve.? ?I was working on
> the fuel system, I think that I have inadvertently knocked a couple of
> connections off of the oil pressure sending unit.? My gauge registers oil
> pressure properly, and that wire was not disconnected.? However, if I put the
> two wires back on one way, the oil pressure warning light comes on and stays
> on.? This is clearly wrong, so I reversed the wires.? I cannot tell if the
> anti-run on valve is now working properly.? I did note that when one of? the
> wires accidently touched the oil pressure wire, I saw a spark and clearly
> heard a click at the anti-run on valve solenoid.? However, when I connected
> the wire to the other post on the sending unit, I could not hear a click when
> cranking or shutting down the engine.? I have looked through my Haynes
> manual, but don't see
> a diagnostic procedure and the only wiring diagram I have is for a RHD PI
> unit.? Mine is LHD carbureted.? Any advice as to how to verify the correct
> wiring for the anti-run on valve?David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: fishplate@gmail.com <fishplate@gmail.com>; davgil@aol.com <davgil@aol.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 30, 2021 7:36 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> It could be many things.? I had an issue like this but the engine died after
> a few minutes.? When I opened the gas filler there was a great rush of air
> and the tank oil-canned.? My problem turned out to be the vinyl hose leading
> from the trunk area to the engine bar had sagged down and contacted the
> exhaust system and melted shut.
> Make sure your system is per design and not missing something.? There is
> typically a liquid/vapor separator near the tank.? If that was bypassed you
> will get liquid fuel where it shouldn't be.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
> To: davgil@aol.com
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Jul 29, 2021 7:20 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR 6 evaporative system
>
> Is the switch/valve on the bottom of the carbon canister operating correctly?
>
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 3:04 PM <davgil@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just replaced the fuel tank in my 1976 TR6 and after a short drive, I
>> noticed a leak coming from the vent connection on top of the tank.? I
>> tightened the nut on the connection, but don't really understand why there
>> would be gas in the vent line.? I also noticed that when I opened the fuel
>> cap, there was a hiss like a suction.? I feel that either the vent line,
>> which seems open when I blow air through it from the cannister attachment or
>> the carb bowls (ZS 175s) may be too full and there is a vacuum that is
>> pulling fuel out of the bowls.? My TR6 does run rich.? I don't understand
>> why there would be a vacuum in the tank.? Also, I noticed a bit of oil
>> around the oil fill cap which I have never seen before.? I checked the oil
>> and the level seems correct.? I thought I smelled a bit of gas in it, but
>> that may have been a bit of imagination on my part.? Any suggestions would
>> be appreciated.
>> Regards,
>> David Gill
>> 1976 TR6
>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
>>
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> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:48:48 -0400
> From: <auprichard@uprichard.net>
> To: "'TR List'" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] TR4 for sale
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> Listers: I was approached by a woman whose father had died and left her
> with a TR4. The story is that he bought it (second owner) in 1967 and drove
> it for 10 years when he had some sort of mechanical problem and pulled the
> engine. As often happens, the engine sat and nothing happened - for 44
> years!
>
>
>
> The car is a wood dash TR4, 1964. Non-overdrive (the gearbox is out of the
> car). Disc wheels. White with black interior. Titled in the state of
> Michigan.
>
>
>
> The car is otherwise intact and the amazing thing is that I found absolutely
> no rust on the car or frame. If someone is restoring a TR4 and has had it
> with rust, this car would be a perfect answer.
>
>
>
> I was asked to put a price on the car and I felt, given its rust-free
> condition, she should not take less than $4000. She asked me to put out
> this message before listing it on eBay or Craigslist. I have no financial
> interest: if anyone gets back to me, I will put them in touch with the
> owner.
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
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> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 12:15:56 -0400
> From: Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 14, Issue 170
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> The relay suggestion is good.
>
> On my H4 lamps I found a haze of some unknown substance on the reflectors
> inside the glass housing! I was able to remove it with glass cleaner and
> curved implements to reach everywhere inside.
>
> Much improved afterward
>
> -Tony
>
>
>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2021, at 2:03 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 00:06:08 -0400
>> From: "Jeff Nathanson" <jeffn@msystech.com>
>> To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [TR] TR6 LED headlamps
>> Message-ID: <001301d784f8$3a0c27f0$ae2477d0$@msystech.com>
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>> I was driving my 1972 TR6 one night and noticed how dark the roads seem
>> (compared to my new car). I have Sylvania halogen headlamps in the 6, and
>> was told that LED is the way to go. Are there any suggestions (other than
>> drive with the high beams). There seems to be a lot of contradicting
>> messages on the web like the need to change the wiring, or add a relay,
>> change the switch, and more. Are there any avenues to avoid?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanking in advance,
>>
>> Jeff N.
>
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