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The idler lever (Moss illustration item 65) is tight. No movement.
I've installed the Delrin silentbloc bushings in the steering linkage
center rod.... No one component seems to have play on its own: It
just seems like the assembly moves together. Any possibility the
steering box end float is off?
Dave
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 5:18 PM Philip Gott <vfracing@aol.com> wrote:
> Dave;
> From memory with my TR3B, that seems pretty good. It=E2=80=99s a very sub=
jective
> measurement because you are working against the rubber in the opposite ti=
re
> (presumably on the ground). The fact that there is zero play at 6 & 12
> indicates that the bearings are indeed installed correctly, provided the
> wheel spins freely. The 3 steering will have more play than the rack and
> pinion set up.
> If you are still concerned, have a look at the idler arm on the passenger
> side. That can be a source of free play, a bit more so with the passenger
> side wheel.
> Regards,
> Phil Gott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 26, 2021, at 4:52 PM, David Friedlander via NET <
> net@newenglandtriumphs.org> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Thanks, Bill. There is no movement when testing at the 6 and 12 o'clock
> positions (bearings are new and appropriately tightened).
>
> I suppose it could be the linkage but, since all parts are new, I wouldn'=
t
> know where to start. Not sure how to 'tighten up' the front end linkage.
> Maybe I've been 'spoiled' by the rack-and-pinion setup I installed in my
> TR6, some years back. Even the peg on the steering box drop arm is new...
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 3:43 PM bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com> wrote=
:
>
>> Is it in the linkage or the wheel bearings? If you can get that movemen=
t
>> when you grab the wheel at 12 & 6, then re-check the bearing tightness.
>>
>> If the linkage, and not the steering box, check the bushings in the idle=
r
>> arm. BTDT.
>>
>> Bill
>> TS30800L
>>
>> Sent from my TRS80
>>
>> On May 26, 2021, at 1:37 PM, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Hey all ~
>>
>> I've rebuilt the front suspension and steering on my TR3A
>> including the steering box and all steering components. I have
>> checked fit and function as best as I can but, with the front
>> end on jackstands and grabbing the wheel at the 3 and 9
>> o'clock positions , I note that there is about 1/4 to 3/8" "play."
>> Is this normal? Should there be zero play in the front wheels?
>>
>> Thanks for any insights....
>>
>> Dave Friedlander
>> '59 TR3A
>> '74 TR6
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">The idler lever (Moss illus=
tration item 65) is tight. No movement.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0=
00099">I've installed the Delrin silentbloc bushings in the steering li=
nkage=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">center rod.... No one compo=
nent seems to have play on its own: It=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#00=
0099">just seems like the assembly moves together. Any possibility the</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif=
;font-size:large;color:#000099">steering box end float is off?</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Dave</div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 5:18 PM Philip Gott <<a href=3D"mailto:vfracing@=
aol.com">vfracing@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Dave;<div>From memory with my TR=
3B, that seems pretty good. It=E2=80=99s a very subjective measurement beca=
use you are working against the rubber in the opposite tire (presumably on =
the ground).=C2=A0 The fact that =C2=A0there is zero play at 6 & 12 ind=
icates that the bearings are indeed installed correctly, provided the wheel=
spins freely. The 3 steering will have more play than the rack and pinion =
set up. =C2=A0</div><div>If you are still concerned, have a look at the idl=
er arm on the passenger side. That can be a source of free play, a bit more=
so with the passenger side wheel.</div><div>Regards,</div><div>Phil Gott<b=
r><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><block=
quote type=3D"cite">On May 26, 2021, at 4:52 PM, David Friedlander via NET =
<<a href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank">net@new=
englandtriumphs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Thanks, Bill.=20
There is no movement when testing at the 6 and 12 o'clock positions (be=
arings are new and appropriately tightened).=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;co=
lor:rgb(0,0,153)">I suppose it could be the linkage but, since all parts ar=
e new, I wouldn't know where to start.=C2=A0 Not sure how to 'tight=
en up' the front=C2=A0end linkage. Maybe I've been 'spoiled'=
; by the rack-and-pinion setup I installed in my TR6, some years back. Even=
the peg on the steering box drop arm is new...</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:=
large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0=
,0,153)">Dave</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 3:43 PM bill beecher <<a href=
=3D"mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>=
> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
dir=3D"auto">Is it in the linkage or the wheel bearings?=C2=A0 If you can =
get that movement when you grab the wheel at 12 & 6, then re-check the =
bearing tightness. =C2=A0<div><br></div><div>If the linkage, and not the st=
eering box, check the bushings in the idler arm.=C2=A0 BTDT. =C2=A0</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Bill</div><div>TS30800L<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from=
my TRS80</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On May 26, 2021, at 1:37 PM, David Frie=
dlander <<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">forzion=
7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans=
ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Hey all ~<br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font=
-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">I've rebuilt the front suspension and s=
teering on my TR3A=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153=
)">including the steering box and all steering components. I have=C2=A0</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms&quo=
t;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">checked fit and function =
as best as I can but, with the front=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large=
;color:rgb(0,0,153)">end on jackstands and grabbing the wheel at the 3 and =
9=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic =
sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">o'clock po=
sitions
, I note that there is about 1/4 to 3/8" "play."=C2=A0</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Is this normal? Should ther=
e be zero play in the front wheels?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:=
rgb(0,0,153)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Tha=
nks for any insights....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153=
)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic =
sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Dave Friedland=
er</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans =
ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">'59 TR3A</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms",=
sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">'74 TR6</div></div>
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