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Re: [TR] [6pack] TRF

To: Alan Atkinson <alanatkinson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TRF
From: Jack McGahey <McGaheyRx@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:38:48 -0500
Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net, 6 Pack Mail List <6pack@autox.team.net>
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Understood. I wouldn=E2=80=99t be just unhappy, I=E2=80=99d be really angry -=
 mostly at myself for making an unsecured personal loan to a man who poured w=
ay too much money into his dream pub/restaurant in Indiana, PA. I wouldn=E2=80=
=99t blame or take it out on the people trying to earn a living at TRF - non=
e of whom had anything to do with the unsecured personal loans to a dead man=
 who didn=E2=80=99t do what he said he would do.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 7, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Alan Atkinson <alanatkinson@hotmail.com> wrote=
:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF They never scrubbed the text so it=E2=80=99s here: http://trf.ze=
ni.net/weeklongb/5.php?s_wt=3D1920&s_ht=3D1200
>=20
> While it is clearly an unsecured loan, there=E2=80=99s specific verbiage i=
n the offer to say there is a mechanism to ensure that a participant will be=
 repaid in the event of his death.=20
> He is dead. It was untimely.=20
> I understand that the insurance was insufficient so the note holders weren=
=E2=80=99t made whole at that time.=20
> I=E2=80=99d be quite unhappy if I were one of them too.=20
>=20
>=20
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>> On Jan 7, 2021, at 7:07 AM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> We were told the loans were secured by a life insurance policy.  That was=
 a lie
>>=20
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Jack McGahey <McGaheyRx@aol.com>=20
>> Date: 1/6/21 10:02 PM (GMT-06:00)=20
>> To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>=20
>> Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TRF=20
>>=20
>> So the current employees and TRF owner are screwing people who knowingly m=
ade unsecured personal loans to Charles Runyon?
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPad
>>=20
>>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 10:56 PM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>> Just keep in mind that they are totally screwing all the investors who h=
elped keep the business afloat all these years
>>> =20
>>> From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of auprichard@upric=
hard.net
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:04 PM
>>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [6pack] TRF
>>> =20
>>> I just put an order in with The Roadster Factory.  I had read this morni=
ng that the business, the cars, the farm, the house and the restaurant had a=
ll been sold to settle outstanding debts.  It turns out that Albert Runyan i=
s the new owner and (according to the people I spoke to) it is business as n=
ormal.
>>> =20
>>> Andrew Uprichard
>>> Jackson, Michigan
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Understood. I wouldn=E2=80=99t be just unha=
ppy, I=E2=80=99d be really angry - mostly at myself for making an unsecured p=
ersonal loan to a man who poured way too much money into his dream pub/resta=
urant in Indiana, PA. I wouldn=E2=80=99t blame or take it out on the people t=
rying to earn a living at TRF - none of whom had anything to do with the uns=
ecured personal loans to a dead man who didn=E2=80=99t do what he said he wo=
uld do.<div><div><div><div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 7, 2021, at 8:15 AM, A=
lan Atkinson &lt;alanatkinson@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></d=
iv><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">The=
y never scrubbed the text so it=E2=80=99s here:&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://trf.z=
eni.net/weeklongb/5.php?s_wt=3D1920&amp;s_ht=3D1200" class=3D"">http://trf.z=
eni.net/weeklongb/5.php?s_wt=3D1920&amp;s_ht=3D1200</a><div class=3D""><br c=
lass=3D""></div><div class=3D"">While it is clearly an unsecured loan, there=
=E2=80=99s specific verbiage in the offer to say there is a mechanism to ens=
ure that a participant will be repaid in the event of his death.&nbsp;</div>=
<div class=3D"">He is dead. It was untimely.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">I un=
derstand that the insurance was insufficient so the note holders weren=E2=80=
=99t made whole at that time.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">I=E2=80=99d be quit=
e unhappy if I were one of them too.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=
=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 7, 2021, at 7:07 AM, dave &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; class=3D"">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:=
</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span style=3D=
"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-st=
yle: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:=
 normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-sp=
ace: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorat=
ion: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">We were told=
 the loans were secured by a life insurance policy.&nbsp; That was a lie</sp=
an><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-siz=
e: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;=
 letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform=
: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0=
px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div align=3D"le=
ft" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-styl=
e: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: n=
ormal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spa=
cing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"=
"><div class=3D"">-------- Original message --------</div><div class=3D"">From:=
 Jack McGahey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:McGaheyRx@aol.com"; class=3D"">McGaheyRx@=
aol.com</a>&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></div><div=
 class=3D"">Date: 1/6/21 10:02 PM (GMT-06:00)<span class=3D"Apple-converted-=
space">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"">To: dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dav=
e@ranteer.com" class=3D"">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-conve=
rted-space">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"">Cc:<span class=3D"Apple-conve=
rted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net"; class=3D=
"">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a>,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;<=
/span><a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">6pack@autox.team.ne=
t</a></div><div class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TRF<span class=3D"Apple=
-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></=
div><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-s=
ize: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: norma=
l; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transfo=
rm: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:=
 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=
=3D"">So the current employees and TRF owner are screwing people who knowing=
ly made unsecured personal loans to Charles Runyon?</span><br style=3D"caret=
-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: n=
ormal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: norma=
l; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: n=
ormal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: n=
one;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvet=
ica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-we=
ight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; t=
ext-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-st=
roke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D=
"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-st=
yle: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:=
 normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-sp=
ace: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorat=
ion: none;" class=3D"">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"care=
t-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: n=
ormal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: norma=
l; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: n=
ormal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: n=
one;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Jan 6=
, 2021, at 10:56 PM, dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; class=3D""=
>dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></blockquote><=
/div><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 1=
2px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; let=
ter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; tex=
t-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -we=
bkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration=
: none;" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"WordS=
ection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Just keep in mind that t=
hey are totally screwing all the investors who helped keep the business aflo=
at all these years</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-si=
ze: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div class=3D""><div s=
tyle=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-col=
or: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><div style=3D"marg=
in: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b c=
lass=3D"">From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>6pack &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">6pack-bounces@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b c=
lass=3D"">On Behalf Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b=
><a href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net"; class=3D"">auprichard@uprichard=
.net</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted=
-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:04 PM<br class=3D""><b cla=
ss=3D"">To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D=
"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>;<spa=
n class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox=
.team.net" class=3D"">6pack@autox.team.net</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">S=
ubject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[6pack] TRF</d=
iv></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;=
 font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"margin: 0in; fon=
t-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"f=
ont-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">I just put an or=
der in with The Roadster Factory.&nbsp; I had read this morning that the bus=
iness, the cars, the farm, the house and the restaurant had all been sold to=
 settle outstanding debts.&nbsp; It turns out that Albert Runyan is the new o=
wner and (according to the people I spoke to) it is business as normal.</spa=
n></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-f=
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