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Here Here!In 2004 I had a dozen of so people in my garage, rebuilding 6-8 t=
ransmissions=C2=A0in a group tech session. One fellow (without a tranny in =
hand) simply drove up in his Triumph for the day's event.=C2=A0 One questio=
n he posed during the day to those in attendance,=C2=A0 was what might be=
=C2=A0draining=C2=A0his battery when the car was just sitting for a week or=
so.
We all told him to just put a battery cut-off switch in to be safe, at leas=
t until he figured out his long standing battery issue.
Fast forward to=C2=A0 2010? - 2012? time frame...we (our gang) get an email=
telling of the demise of his car and his exit from the hobby.=C2=A0 As the=
story goes, he heard a loud crack from the garage (attached). Upon opening=
the kitchen/garage door, he was met with thick acrid black smoke that inst=
antly filled the kitchen/house.=C2=A0 both his Triumph and wife's SUV were =
engulfed in flames.=C2=A0 The smoke in the house was bad enough that it kil=
led his two large=C2=A0amazon=C2=A0parrots. Needless to say building damage=
as well as the loss of two cherished pets and two motor vehicles was enoug=
h for the wife to say=C2=A0"you're done! no more=C2=A0cars!"
Now considering the design of these vehicles, there is quite an array of wi=
ring that sits 'live' all the time,=C2=A0many=C2=A0unfused.=C2=A0 A little =
vibration and chaffing can easily reduce insulation thickness etc. Cracked =
and brittle jackets... the list goes on.
IT CAN NOT BE STATED UNEQUIVICABLY ENOUGH..... INSTALL A BATTERY CUT-OFF.
If for no other reason, the simplicity of=C2=A0safely working on the car as=
needed,.... theft deterrent, etc.=C2=A0=20
If for a good reason,=C2=A0peace of mind, and=C2=A0 the story above.=C2=A0 =
(yes true story above..from someone that DID 'have a clue' about what he wa=
s doing.)
ptegler
-----Original Message-----
From: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 8:08 am
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
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We have battery cutoff switches on all our cars.=C2=A0 Given the dicey elec=
trics on these cars I think it=E2=80=99s a pretty important thing to do.=C2=
=A0 Pretty much every time we walk away from the car we disconnect it.
=C2=A0
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Will Daehler
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:17 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
=C2=A0
OK, I have in the past inadvertently left my key in the ON position. For da=
ys and days.=C2=A0 The result was a burned out coil and points which I was =
forced to replace before the car started again. This made me look hard and =
long at my fifty year old ignition switch. Although there was a contact ava=
ilable for AUX on the back of the switch, and it was certainly wired correc=
tly, there didn=E2=80=99t seem to be a AUX key position. There appeared to =
be only three positions, Start, On and Off. Three clicks, not four. =C2=A0I=
was able to create a momentary and intermittent AUX effect by twisting the=
key hard to the left and firmly holding it there, the radio would come on.
=C2=A0
It eventually occurred to me that the switch was worn out, and so I replace=
d it with a new one.=C2=A0 Voila, I now have an AUX function, and can now l=
isten to the radio at leisure without burning out the ignition circuits. =
=C2=A0This replacement switch also has the feature where you have to push t=
he key in slightly when simultaneously turning the key to the AUX position.=
=20
=C2=A0
Faithfully submitted,
=C2=A0
Will Daehler
63 TR4
Powder Blue
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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lack;"><div style=3D"color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;=
font-size: 10pt;"><br>Here Here!</div><div style=3D"color: black; font-fam=
ily: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">In 2004 I had a dozen of=
so people in my garage, rebuilding 6-8 transmissions in a group tech =
session. One fellow (without a tranny in hand) simply drove up in his Trium=
ph for the day's event. One question he posed during the day to those=
in attendance, was what might be draining his battery when=
the car was just sitting for a week or so.<br></div><div style=3D"color: b=
lack; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">We all tol=
d him to just put a battery cut-off switch in to be safe, at least until he=
figured out his long standing battery issue.<br><br>Fast forward to =
2010? - 2012? time frame...we (our gang) get an email telling of the demise=
of his car and his exit from the hobby. </div><div style=3D"color: b=
lack; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">As the sto=
ry goes, he heard a loud crack from the garage (attached). Upon opening the=
kitchen/garage door, he was met with thick acrid black smoke that instantl=
y filled the kitchen/house. both his Triumph and wife's SUV were engu=
lfed in flames. The smoke in the house was bad enough that it killed =
his two large amazon parrots. Needless to say building damage as =
well as the loss of two cherished pets and two motor vehicles was enough fo=
r the wife to say "you're done! no more cars!"<br><br><br>Now con=
sidering the design of these vehicles, there is quite an array of wiring th=
at sits 'live' all the time, many unfused. A little vibrati=
on and chaffing can easily reduce insulation thickness etc. Cracked and bri=
ttle jackets... the list goes on.<br><br>IT CAN NOT BE STATED UNEQUIVICABLY=
ENOUGH..... INSTALL A BATTERY CUT-OFF.</div><div style=3D"color: black; fo=
nt-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br>If for no othe=
r reason, the simplicity of safely working on the car as needed,.... t=
heft deterrent, etc. <br>If for a good reason, peace of mind, an=
d the story above. (yes true story above..from someone that DID=
'have a clue' about what he was doing.)<br><br>ptegler<br><br><br>-----Ori=
ginal Message-----<br>From: dave <dave@ranteer.com><br>To: triumphs@a=
utox.team.net<br>Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 8:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 I=
gnitions switch AUX vs.ON<br><br></div><div id=3D"yiv3162272966"><style>#yi=
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#yiv3162272966 </style><div><div class=3D"yiv3162272966WordSection1"><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNormal">We have battery cutoff switches on all our ca=
rs. Given the dicey electrics on these cars I think it=E2=80=99s a pr=
etty important thing to do. Pretty much every time we walk away from =
the car we disconnect it.</p><p class=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNormal"> </p=
><div class=3D"yiv3162272966yqt7987181562" id=3D"yiv3162272966yqt71523"><di=
v><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none n=
one; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3=
pt 0in 0in; border-image: none;"><p class=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNormal"><b>Fro=
m:</b> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b=
>Will Daehler<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:=
17 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none=
"><b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON</p></div></div><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNormal=
">OK, I have in the past inadvertently left my key in the ON position. For =
days and days. The result was a burned out coil and points which I wa=
s forced to replace before the car started again. This made me look hard an=
d long at my fifty year old ignition switch. Although there was a contact a=
vailable for AUX on the back of the switch, and it was certainly wired corr=
ectly, there didn=E2=80=99t seem to be a AUX key position. There appeared t=
o be only three positions, Start, On and Off. Three clicks, not four.  =
;I was able to create a momentary and intermittent AUX effect by twisting t=
he key hard to the left and firmly holding it there, the radio would come o=
n.</p><p class=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv3162272=
966MsoNormal">It eventually occurred to me that the switch was worn out, an=
d so I replaced it with a new one. Voila, I now have an AUX function,=
and can now listen to the radio at leisure without burning out the ignitio=
n circuits. This replacement switch also has the feature where you ha=
ve to push the key in slightly when simultaneously turning the key to the A=
UX position. </p><p class=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D=
"yiv3162272966MsoNormal">Faithfully submitted,</p><p class=3D"yiv3162272966=
MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNormal">Will Daehler</p><=
p class=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNormal">63 TR4</p><p class=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNo=
rmal">Powder Blue</p></div><p class=3D"yiv3162272966MsoNormal"> </p><=
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