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Re: [TR] A smart or dumb idea for TR6 Steering column

To: "'Allen Hess'" <allen.k.hess@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] A smart or dumb idea for TR6 Steering column
From: "Jeff Nathanson" <jeffn@msystech.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:12:36 -0400
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Allen,

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I don=E2=80=99t have the felt packing, and  one of the bolts around the =
U clamp was missing the nut. So, I guess when I get around to tighten =
everything, the steering column should be more rigid.

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Thanks,

Jeff N.

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From: Allen Hess [mailto:allen.k.hess@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 2:58 PM
To: Jeff Nathanson <jeffn@msystech.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] A smart or dumb idea for TR6 Steering column

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https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr6-250/suspension-steering/steering-colum=
n-1

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There are two U clamps that secure the steering column. The =
=E2=80=9Clower=E2=80=9D one (I think of it as forward, closer to the =
bulkhead) would prevent the movement that I think you are talking about. =
It is item 124 in Moss catalog. Do you have it? Do you have the felt =
packing?

=20

Allen





On Jun 19, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Jeff Nathanson <jeffn@msystech.com =

=EF=BB=BF

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Hello,

=20

I=E2=80=99m one of those silent subscribers. But, now I have an idea and =
wanted to pass it on for suggestions/criticism . I just changed the two =
steering column bushing in the 1972 TR6. But, when I grab the steering =
column from inside the engine bay, there still is a lot of play. As can =
be seen by the below picture, the steering column can rattle around in =
the hole in the fire wall.

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<image002.jpg>

=20

So, my idea was to pack some rubber around the steering column (1.25 =
inches OD) from inside and force it through the fire wall. I got a pair =
of rubber chair legs from Amazon.

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<image004.jpg>

=20

=20

I cut off the =E2=80=9Cfloor=E2=80=9D end and then cut off some more so =
that is about 0.75=E2=80=9D remaining

=20

=20

.

<image009.jpg>

=20

=20

After removing the steering column from the car, I can now place this =
rubber =E2=80=9Cconcoction=E2=80=9D  around the front end of the =
steering column and place it through the fire wall so it fills the gap. =
I have not yet completed this task because of problems securing the four =
screws in the large rubber cushion connecting the two steering rods.

=20

So, my question is:

1)      Was the gap in the file wall around the steering intentional?

2)      Do you think this would mess up anything?

3)      Would I feel more or less vibration at the steering wheel?

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Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.

=20

=20

Thanks,

Jeff N.

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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Allen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I don=E2=80=99t have the =
felt packing, and =C2=A0one of the bolts around the U clamp was missing =
the nut. So, I guess when I get around to tighten everything, the =
steering column should be more rigid.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Jeff =
N.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Allen Hess =
[mailto:allen.k.hess@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 19, 2020 =
2:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jeff Nathanson =
&lt;jeffn@msystech.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] A smart or dumb idea =
for TR6 Steering column<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr6-250/suspension-steering/steeri=
ng-column-1">https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr6-250/suspension-steering/s=
teering-column-1</a><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There are two U clamps that secure the steering =
column. The =E2=80=9Clower=E2=80=9D one (I think of it as forward, =
closer to the bulkhead) would prevent the movement that I think you are =
talking about. It is item 124 in Moss catalog. Do you have it? Do you =
have the felt packing?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 19, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Jeff =
Nathanson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jeffn@msystech.com";>jeffn@msystech.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>I=E2=80=99m one of =
those silent subscribers. But, now I have an idea and wanted to pass it =
on for suggestions/criticism . I just changed the two steering column =
bushing in the 1972 TR6. But, when I grab the steering column from =
inside the engine bay, there still is a lot of play. As can be seen by =
the below picture, the steering column can rattle around in the hole in =
the fire wall.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'>&lt;image002.jpg&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>So, my idea was to pack some rubber around =
the steering column (1.25 inches OD) from inside and force it through =
the fire wall. I got a pair of rubber chair legs from =
Amazon.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'>&lt;image004.jpg&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>I cut off the =E2=80=9Cfloor=E2=80=9D end and =
then cut off some more so that is about 0.75=E2=80=9D =
remaining</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'>&lt;image009.jpg&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>After removing the steering column from the =
car, I can now place this rubber =E2=80=9Cconcoction=E2=80=9D =
&nbsp;around the front end of the steering column and place it through =
the fire wall so it fills the gap. I have not yet completed this task =
because of problems securing the four screws in the large rubber cushion =
connecting the two steering rods.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>So, my question =
is:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Was the gap in =
the file wall around the steering intentional?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Do you think =
this would mess up anything?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Would I feel =
more or less vibration at the steering wheel?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Any suggestions or =
comments would be appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Jeff =
N.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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