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Subject: Re: [TR] sandblasting
From: "dave" <dave@ranteer.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:03:41 -0500
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That black media he used was likely ground up lava.  I have used that =
and its not as aggressive as sand. =20

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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Rye =
Livingston
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:25 AM
To: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Cc: Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net) <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] sandblasting

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My nephew started his own company of mobile power cleaning.  He bought =
this serious diesel powered professional duel axle trailer rig in Texas, =
and he could power clean with all kinds of media depending on the =
application, and he also had hot water blasting.  He did all kinds of =
jobs, from vintage cars, boats for the Coast Guard, to BART stations in =
San Francisco for both graffiti to human waste.  And if that wasn't =
gross enough, he said one of the worst was a Chinese restaurant that got =
sited and fined every day for grease oozing out of the cinder black and =
concrete enclosure for their dumpster.  One of his easiest jobs was my =
8' long utility trailer.

=20

In all those situations, a mobile service like his, they will capture =
and clean up the media and waste, big vacuum system. For that Chinese =
restaurant he put out dams to channel the water and goo and were =
vacuuming up all that grease and hot water, very gross. =20

=20

At my house he used an inert material, but it was not sand.  It was some =
sort of black material that looked like shards of coal.  I've texted him =
to find out what it was.

=20

As was mentioned, for the cars he blasted, he had a couple of "learning" =
cars that were not vintage.  The trick was to learn not to let the hood, =
or any long body panel, get hot and warp.  So check for references to =
make sure who you hire has that experience.  After he learned he did =
several cars including BMWs and vintage 911s and 356 Porsches.

=20

When he did this work, he had a full helmet respirator setup, coveralls, =
gloves and boots.  No media got where he didn't want it, but he was a =
hot sweaty mess when he took that helmet off.

=20

I live in a cul-de-sac and he did the blasting down there, and there was =
just a little bit of media that was under the trailer that didn't get =
cleaned up, so again, a mobile service has a process to not leave all =
that behind.

=20

He also had a "rust inhibitor" he sprayed on the bare metal so it didn't =
get a quick flash rust overnight.  Google that for details. I was able =
to paint over that no problem.  I bought a gallon of black Rust-Oleum =
paint and repainted it myself and it's like a new trailer.

=20

Good luck,

=20

Rye
PH: 530-FIND-RYE


On April 23, 2020 at 9:04 PM, DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net =

Back in '08-'09, I had my TR3 body tub and frame blasted at a local =
powder coating company.  $300 each.  They blasted every square inch with =
crushed garnet.  The tub was stripped of every bolt-on part.  In two =
different visits, I set up both items on my makeshift engine stand =
rotisserie, with custom attachments, to make it a lot easier for them =
and the best outcome.  Worth every penny and more.

Skip this part if you can and have a company do this work.  You might =
even consider a mobile unit come to you.  Different media can be used =
depending on paint or rust.  Special care has to be taken on body parts, =
not to warp them, but if the person has a little finesse, any harm can =
be avoided.

The important part of good blasting is high CFM from the compressor.  If =
you don't have enough CFM, you'll be working way too hard for way too =
long.=20

Dave H.

=20

On April 23, 2020 at 8:25 PM Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com =

I stripped a TR4 years ago over the course of I don't remember how many =
evenings after work, using several gallons of paint stripper bought at =
closeout tool store, saying never again and wishing I had a sandblaster. =
=20

=20

Be careful what you wish for I guess.

=20

Greg Lemon

TR250

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On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 9:08 PM Jeff Scarbrough < fishplate@gmail.com =

=20

=20

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:53 PM Michael Porter < mdporter@dfn.com =

=20

Which reminds me of J.E. Gordon's (The New Science of Strong Materials) =
remark about production welding:  "Welding is like Hell--fun for the =
first three or four hours."

=20

=20

There was a time when I couldn't wait to learn how to run the cotton =
picker at work.  It got old kind of quick...But it still beat a day in =
the office in front of the computer.

=20

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>That black =
media he used was likely ground up lava.=C2=A0 I have used that and its =
not as aggressive as sand.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rye =
Livingston<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2020 9:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
DAVE HOGYE &lt;dlhogye@comcast.net&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs =
(triumphs@autox.team.net) =
&lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] =
sandblasting<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>My =
nephew started his own company of mobile power cleaning. &nbsp;He bought =
this serious diesel powered professional duel axle trailer rig in Texas, =
and he could power clean with all kinds of media depending on the =
application, and he also had hot water blasting. &nbsp;He did all kinds =
of jobs, from vintage cars, boats for the Coast Guard, to BART stations =
in San Francisco for both graffiti to human waste. &nbsp;And if that =
wasn't gross enough, he said one of the worst was a Chinese restaurant =
that got sited and fined every day for grease oozing out of the cinder =
black and concrete enclosure for their dumpster. &nbsp;One of his =
easiest jobs was my 8' long utility trailer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>In all those situations, a mobile service&nbsp;like =
his, they will&nbsp;capture and clean up the&nbsp;media and waste, big =
vacuum system. For that Chinese restaurant he put out dams to channel =
the water and goo and&nbsp;were vacuuming up all that grease and hot =
water, very gross. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>At my house he used an inert material, but it was not =
sand. &nbsp;It was some sort of black material that looked like shards =
of coal. &nbsp;I've texted him to find out what it =
was.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>As was&nbsp;mentioned, for the cars he blasted, he had =
a couple of &quot;learning&quot; cars that were not vintage. &nbsp;The =
trick was to&nbsp;learn not to let the hood, or any long body panel, =
get&nbsp;hot and warp. &nbsp;So check for references to make sure who =
you hire has that experience. &nbsp;After he learned he did several cars =
including BMWs and vintage 911s and 356 =
Porsches.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>When he did this work, he had a full helmet respirator =
setup, coveralls, gloves and boots. &nbsp;No media got where he didn't =
want it, but he was a hot sweaty mess when he took that helmet =
off.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
live in a cul-de-sac and he did the blasting down there, and there was =
just a little bit of media that was under the trailer that didn't get =
cleaned up, so again, a mobile service has a process to not leave all =
that behind.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>He also had a &quot;rust inhibitor&quot; he sprayed on =
the bare metal so it didn't get a quick flash rust overnight. =
&nbsp;Google that for details. I was able to paint over that no problem. =
&nbsp;I bought a gallon of black Rust-Oleum paint and repainted it =
myself and it's like a new trailer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Good luck,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rye<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On April 23, 2020 =
at 9:04 PM, DAVE HOGYE &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net";>dlhogye@comcast.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Back in '08-'09, I had my TR3 body tub and frame blasted at a local =
powder coating company.&nbsp; $300 each.&nbsp; They blasted every square =
inch with crushed garnet.&nbsp; The tub was stripped of every bolt-on =
part.&nbsp; In two different visits, I set up both items on my makeshift =
engine stand rotisserie, with custom attachments, to make it a lot =
easier for them and the best outcome.&nbsp; Worth every penny and =
more.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Skip this part if you can and have a company do this work.&nbsp; You =
might even consider a mobile unit come to you.&nbsp; Different media can =
be used depending on paint or rust.&nbsp; Special care has to be taken =
on body parts, not to warp them, but if the person has a little finesse, =
any harm can be avoided.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>The important part of good blasting is high CFM from the =
compressor.&nbsp; If you don't have enough CFM, you'll be working way =
too hard for way too long.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Dave H.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On April 23, 2020 at 8:25 PM Greg Lemon =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:grglmn@gmail.com";>grglmn@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I stripped a TR4 years ago over =
the course of I don't remember how many evenings after work, using =
several gallons of paint stripper bought at closeout tool store, saying =
never again and wishing I had a =
sandblaster.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Be careful what you wish for I =
guess.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TR250<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 9:08 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt; <a =
href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com";>fishplate@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:53 PM Michael Porter &lt; <a =
href=3D"mailto:mdporter@dfn.com";>mdporter@dfn.com</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p>Which reminds me of J.E. =
Gordon's (<em><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The New =
Science of Strong Materials</span></em>) remark about production =
welding:&nbsp; &quot;Welding is like Hell--fun for the first three or =
four hours.&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></blockquote><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There was a time when I couldn't wait to learn how to =
run the cotton picker at work.&nbsp; It got old kind of quick...But it =
still beat a day in the office in front of the =
computer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
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