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Listers,

 Regarding timing lights I have used a Snap-On dial back light for decades.=
 I also have a Sears dial back unit and the readings are the same.


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Today's Topics:

   1. old new convertible top (dave)
   2. Re: old new convertible top (bill beecher)
   3. Re: old new convertible top (bill beecher)
   4. Re: old new convertible top (Paul Tegler)
   5. timing light recommendation? (Tim Gaines)
   6. Re: old new convertible top (Rochlin Robert)
   7. Re: timing light recommendation? (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
   8. Re: old new convertible top (Greg Lemon)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:43:45 -0500
From: "dave" <dave@ranteer.com>
To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] old new convertible top

Finally, after a decade +, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out of the bo=
x
getting ready to install.  Other than using a hair dryer or sunny day to ge=
t
the folds out, are there any other recommendations?



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:59:27 -0500
From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] old new convertible top

I would define vote for the sunny day.  But I did have to get my top out la=
st November, I pointed my small propane redi-heater into the window and it =
did the job after about 5-10 minutes.

Bill

?Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......? M.Murphy

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 3:45 PM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>

?
Finally, after a decade +, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out of the bo=
x getting ready to install.  Other than using a hair dryer or sunny day to =
get the folds out, are there any other recommendations?

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:59:27 -0500
From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] old new convertible top

I would define vote for the sunny day.  But I did have to get my top out la=
st November, I pointed my small propane redi-heater into the window and it =
did the job after about 5-10 minutes.

Bill

?Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......? M.Murphy

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 3:45 PM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>

?
Finally, after a decade +, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out of the bo=
x getting ready to install.  Other than using a hair dryer or sunny day to =
get the folds out, are there any other recommendations?

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:32:32 -0400
From: Paul Tegler <ptegler@verizon.net>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] old new convertible top

DO NOT put the top on when it's hot!.??? come cooler weather you'll never
get it back up!

Granted perhaps not your specific vehile, but technique and tips are all
the same....
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On 3/17/2020 4:43 PM, dave wrote:
>
> Finally, after a decade +, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out of
> the box getting ready to install.??? Other than using a hair dryer or
> sunny day to get the folds out, are there any other recommendations?
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 13:12:43 +0000
From: "Tim Gaines" <mtgaines@presby.edu>
To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] timing light recommendation?

My old Penske timing light that I've had for decades finally gave out
yesterday, so I'm looking for recommendations for a reliable but not too
expensive replacement. What has worked for you? I do have a few bucks
worth of Speed Perks credit at Advance Auto; anything there?

Thanks,
Tim Gaines
1974 TR6
1980 Spitfire
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 10:33:03 -0400
From: Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net>
Cc: list Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] old new convertible top

Hi Doug,
        If it?s a Robbins top be really sure the top still fits before goin=
g to all the trouble to install it. I put a Robbins Sunfast top on my TR6 y=
ears ago, and although, it looks great when up or down, it is a lot of work=
 to puit up under cool conditions.  About a year ago I spoke to a well resp=
ected installer who told me that the rear window section of the  Robbins to=
ps are short and thus Robbins tops are always a  tight fit. I found that my=
 previous vinyl top  was difficult to get up unless is was either very warm=
 - it was also a Robbins top. In spite of what Robbins said when I contacte=
d them, their tops don?t stretch after they have been installed and left in=
 the sun?
        I?d be curious to know if anyone has had better luck with their top=
 installations.
        Best,
        Bob
        ?72 TR6
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 4:43 PM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> Finally, after a decade +, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out of the =
box getting ready to install.  Other than using a hair dryer or sunny day t=
o get the folds out, are there any other recommendations?
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 15:57:27 +0000
From: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hotmail.com>
To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>, Tim Gaines
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Subject: Re: [TR] timing light recommendation?
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Innova 5568.  Great tool.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 8:12 AM
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Subject: [TR] timing light recommendation?

My old Penske timing light that I've had for decades finally gave out yeste=
rday, so I'm looking for recommendations for a reliable but not too expensi=
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ed Perks credit at Advance Auto; anything there?

Thanks,
Tim Gaines
1974 TR6
1980 Spitfire

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 12:29:18 -0500
From: Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
To: Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net>
Cc: list Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] old new convertible top
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Robert, although I wasn't aware it was the rear window area that was short,
mine (self installed) takes a bit of effort to get up on all but the
hottest of days.  My first top install, I put it on in the sun.  It looks
very good, but is tight.

If I had this to do over I would probably install on a warm day out of the
sun.

I always store for the my winter or extended periods of time with the top
up, my theory is it can't shrink with the top up, or at least is less
likely to.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 9:33 AM Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Doug,
> If it?s a Robbins top be really sure the top still fits before going to
> all the trouble to install it. I put a Robbins Sunfast top on my TR6 year=
s
> ago, and although, it looks great when up or down, it is a lot of work to
> puit up under cool conditions.  About a year ago I spoke to a well
> respected installer who told me that the rear window section of the
>  Robbins tops are short and thus Robbins tops are always a  tight fit. I
> found that my previous vinyl top  was difficult to get up unless is was
> either very warm - it was also a Robbins top. In spite of what Robbins sa=
id
> when I contacted them, their tops don?t stretch after they have been
> installed and left in the sun?
> I?d be curious to know if anyone has had better luck with their top
> installations.
> Best,
> Bob
> ?72 TR6
>
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 4:43 PM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
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> Finally, after a decade +, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out of the
> box getting ready to install.  Other than using a hair dryer or sunny day
> to get the folds out, are there any other recommendations?
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&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. old new convertible top (dave)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Re: old new convertible top (bill beecher)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. Re: old new convertible top (bill beecher)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. Re: old new convertible top (Paul Tegler)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. timing light recommendation? (Tim Gaines)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 6. Re: old new convertible top (Rochlin Robert)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 7. Re: timing light recommendation? (Randy and Valerie DeRuite=
r)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 8. Re: old new convertible top (Greg Lemon)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:43:45 -0500<br>
From: &quot;dave&quot; &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;<br>
To: &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Subject: [TR] old new convertible top<br>
<br>
Finally, after a decade &#43;, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out of th=
e box<br>
getting ready to install.&nbsp; Other than using a hair dryer or sunny day =
to get<br>
the folds out, are there any other recommendations?<br>
<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:59:27 -0500<br>
From: bill beecher &lt;notakitcar@yahoo.com&gt;<br>
To: dave &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;<br>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] old new convertible top<br>
<br>
I would define vote for the sunny day.&nbsp; But I did have to get my top o=
ut last November, I pointed my small propane redi-heater into the window an=
d it did the job after about 5-10 minutes.
<br>
<br>
Bill<br>
<br>
?Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......? M.Murphy<br>
<br>
&gt; On Mar 17, 2020, at 3:45 PM, dave &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
?<br>
Finally, after a decade &#43;, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out of th=
e box getting ready to install.&nbsp; Other than using a hair dryer or sunn=
y day to get the folds out, are there any other recommendations?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:59:27 -0500<br>
From: bill beecher &lt;notakitcar@yahoo.com&gt;<br>
To: dave &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;<br>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] old new convertible top<br>
<br>
I would define vote for the sunny day.&nbsp; But I did have to get my top o=
ut last November, I pointed my small propane redi-heater into the window an=
d it did the job after about 5-10 minutes.
<br>
<br>
Bill<br>
<br>
?Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......? M.Murphy<br>
<br>
&gt; On Mar 17, 2020, at 3:45 PM, dave &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
?<br>
Finally, after a decade &#43;, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out of th=
e box getting ready to install.&nbsp; Other than using a hair dryer or sunn=
y day to get the folds out, are there any other recommendations?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:32:32 -0400<br>
From: Paul Tegler &lt;ptegler@verizon.net&gt;<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] old new convertible top<br>
t;flowed&quot;<br>
<br>
DO NOT put the top on when it's hot!.??? come cooler weather you'll never <=
br>
get it back up!<br>
<br>
Granted perhaps not your specific vehile, but technique and tips are all <b=
r>
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On 3/17/2020 4:43 PM, dave wrote:<br>
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&gt; Finally, after a decade &#43;, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out =
of <br>
&gt; the box getting ready to install.??? Other than using a hair dryer or =
<br>
&gt; sunny day to get the folds out, are there any other recommendations?<b=
r>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 13:12:43 &#43;0000<br>
From: &quot;Tim Gaines&quot; &lt;mtgaines@presby.edu&gt;<br>
To: &quot;triumphs@autox.team.net&quot; &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Subject: [TR] timing light recommendation?<br>
br>
d&quot;<br>
<br>
My old Penske timing light that I've had for decades finally gave out <br>
yesterday, so I'm looking for recommendations for a reliable but not too <b=
r>
expensive replacement. What has worked for you? I do have a few bucks <br>
worth of Speed Perks credit at Advance Auto; anything there?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Tim Gaines<br>
1974 TR6<br>
1980 Spitfire<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 10:33:03 -0400<br>
From: Rochlin Robert &lt;rrochlin@comcast.net&gt;<br>
Cc: list Triumph &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] old new convertible top<br>
<br>
Hi Doug,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If it?s a Robbins top be really =
sure the top still fits before going to all the trouble to install it. I pu=
t a Robbins Sunfast top on my TR6 years ago, and although, it looks great w=
hen up or down, it is a lot of work to puit up under cool conditions.&nbsp;
 About a year ago I spoke to a well respected installer who told me that th=
e rear window section of the&nbsp; Robbins tops are short and thus Robbins =
tops are always a&nbsp; tight fit. I found that my previous vinyl top&nbsp;=
 was difficult to get up unless is was either very
 warm - it was also a Robbins top. In spite of what Robbins said when I con=
tacted them, their tops don?t stretch after they have been installed and le=
ft in the sun?<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I?d be curious to know if anyone=
 has had better luck with their top installations.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Best,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bob<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ?72 TR6<br>
&gt; On Mar 17, 2020, at 4:43 PM, dave &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Finally, after a decade &#43;, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out =
of the box getting ready to install.&nbsp; Other than using a hair dryer or=
 sunny day to get the folds out, are there any other recommendations?<br>
&gt;&nbsp; <br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 15:57:27 &#43;0000<br>
From: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter &lt;deruiterville@hotmail.com&gt;<br>
To: &quot;triumphs@autox.team.net&quot; &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;, Ti=
m Gaines<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;mtgaines@presby.edu&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] timing light recommendation?<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;DM6PR19MB3130CCCB4805EFA50D2=
48FF5B9F70@DM6PR19MB3130.namprd19.prod.outlook.com&gt;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
<br>
Innova 5568.&nbsp; Great tool.<br>
<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Tim Gai=
nes &lt;mtgaines@presby.edu&gt;<br>
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 8:12 AM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Subject: [TR] timing light recommendation?<br>
<br>
My old Penske timing light that I've had for decades finally gave out yeste=
rday, so I'm looking for recommendations for a reliable but not too expensi=
ve replacement. What has worked for you? I do have a few bucks worth of Spe=
ed Perks credit at Advance Auto;
 anything there?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Tim Gaines<br>
1974 TR6<br>
1980 Spitfire<br>
<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 12:29:18 -0500<br>
From: Greg Lemon &lt;grglmn@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: Rochlin Robert &lt;rrochlin@comcast.net&gt;<br>
Cc: list Triumph &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] old new convertible top<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAFtw3aaZDP-30iH1FJm41d9PM0p=
mhqA3S12zoYTFKPC=3D8hZtGQ@mail.gmail.com&gt;<br>
<br>
Robert, although I wasn't aware it was the rear window area that was short,=
<br>
mine (self installed) takes a bit of effort to get up on all but the<br>
hottest of days.&nbsp; My first top install, I put it on in the sun.&nbsp; =
It looks<br>
very good, but is tight.<br>
<br>
If I had this to do over I would probably install on a warm day out of the<=
br>
sun.<br>
<br>
I always store for the my winter or extended periods of time with the top<b=
r>
up, my theory is it can't shrink with the top up, or at least is less<br>
likely to.<br>
<br>
Greg Lemon<br>
TR250<br>
<br>
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 9:33 AM Rochlin Robert &lt;rrochlin@comcast.net&gt; w=
rote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hi Doug,<br>
&gt; If it?s a Robbins top be really sure the top still fits before going t=
o<br>
&gt; all the trouble to install it. I put a Robbins Sunfast top on my TR6 y=
ears<br>
&gt; ago, and although, it looks great when up or down, it is a lot of work=
 to<br>
&gt; puit up under cool conditions.&nbsp; About a year ago I spoke to a wel=
l<br>
&gt; respected installer who told me that the rear window section of the<br=
>
&gt;&nbsp; Robbins tops are short and thus Robbins tops are always a&nbsp; =
tight fit. I<br>
&gt; found that my previous vinyl top&nbsp; was difficult to get up unless =
is was<br>
&gt; either very warm - it was also a Robbins top. In spite of what Robbins=
 said<br>
&gt; when I contacted them, their tops don?t stretch after they have been<b=
r>
&gt; installed and left in the sun?<br>
&gt; I?d be curious to know if anyone has had better luck with their top<br=
>
&gt; installations.<br>
&gt; Best,<br>
&gt; Bob<br>
&gt; ?72 TR6<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mar 17, 2020, at 4:43 PM, dave &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Finally, after a decade &#43;, I pulled the vinyl convertible top out =
of the<br>
&gt; box getting ready to install.&nbsp; Other than using a hair dryer or s=
unny day<br>
&gt; to get the folds out, are there any other recommendations?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br>
&gt;<br>
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