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well they do include the driveshaft. a proper drive shaft.looks like it us=
es the hydraulic throw out bearing. i have never liked the idea of that.=C2=
=A0when i built my own i used the original triumph slave cylinder. heck of =
a lot easier to replace.and the gear lever looks funky. when i did mine i c=
ut the top off the toyota lever and welded the top from a ebay bought trium=
ph lever. weld hides under the rubber boot. cant tell the difference.
just my thoughts
On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 03:46:23 PM PST, Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@=
comcast.net> wrote: =20
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Hmmm. 3K rpm at 60 MPH is about what my 4th gear is on my non-OD tranny. =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I would have thought that the Miata 5th gear might have been =
=E2=80=9Cdirect=E2=80=9D, like the TR=E2=80=99s 4th. And 6th would be some =
sort of overdrive.=C2=A0
Without having 20-30% overdrive then there is no great advantage to the Mia=
ta unit!
-Tony
Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine
On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Bryan Loy <paradisemusicnc@gmail.com> wrote:
=EF=BB=BFAs far as gear ratios go, I can't say, numbers wise, but I have an=
'04 MX5 with the 6 speed, and it is low. =C2=A06th gear at 60mph, the engi=
ne is turning 3K. =C2=A0 Pretty much 20MPH for every 1K on the tach.=C2=A0B=
ryan
On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:27 PM Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net> wrote:
It is indeed pricey.=C2=A0 But it appears to be a complete new transmission=
and all the required adapter stuff ready to go.=C2=A0 The only way it woul=
d be better as a conversion is if it retained the original space cylinder.=
=20
So for a complete new modern (hopefully long life) overdrive transmission, =
the price is not terrible.
It is likely a better solution than the HVDA because those old Toyota trans=
missions may well be =E2=80=9Cused up=E2=80=9D,not just =E2=80=9Cused=E2=80=
=9D. And they are hard to find.=C2=A0=20
For me, I found the right Toyota transmission to be as rare as ... as a fri=
end of mine puts it...=C2=A0 =C2=A0as rare as rocking horse manure.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0He may not actually have used the word =E2=80=9Cmanure=E2=80=9D.=20
So I like this Miata option!
Does anyone know the gear ratios?=C2=A0 The Moss description does not indic=
ate the ratios.=C2=A0=20
-Tony
Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine
> On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:02 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:54:49 -0600
> From: Dean Mericas <dmericas@gmail.com>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Experience with Vitesse 5-speed transmission conversion?
> Message-ID: <3D51629D-3D80-44B6-9EEF-01C3BD216362@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 charset=3Dutf-8
>=20
> I see that Moss now carries an a 5-speed transmission conversion that app=
ears to use Miata internals in a custom case and bell housing. It isn?t che=
ap, but as an apparent drop in replacement I think the installed cost may b=
e about the same as the Toyota-based HVDA kit.
>=20
> Does anyone on the list have first hand experience with this particular c=
onversion?
>=20
> Thanks.=20
>=20
> Dean Mericas
> 1965 TR4
> Austin, TX
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veshaft. a proper drive shaft.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">=
looks like it uses the hydraulic throw out bearing. i have never liked the =
idea of that. </div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">when i buil=
t my own i used the original triumph slave cylinder. heck of a lot easier t=
o replace.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">and the gear lever l=
ooks funky. when i did mine i cut the top off the toyota lever and welded t=
he top from a ebay bought triumph lever. weld hides under the rubber boot. =
cant tell the difference.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">just my thoughts</div><div dir=
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lse"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 03:46:23 PM PST, Anthony =
Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net> wrote:
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<div><br></div>
<div><div id=3D"ydpef8a3767yiv6628094750"><div>Hmmm. 3K rpm=
at 60 MPH is about what my 4th gear is on my non-OD tranny. I=
would have thought that the Miata 5th gear might have been =E2=80=9Cdirect=
=E2=80=9D, like the TR=E2=80=99s 4th. And 6th would be some sort of overdri=
ve. <div><br></div><div>Without having 20-30% overdrive then there is =
no great advantage to the Miata unit!</div><div><br></div><div>-Tony<br><di=
v><div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engin=
e</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:=
40 PM, Bryan Loy <paradisemusicnc@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquo=
te></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"lt=
r">As far as gear ratios go, I can't say, numbers wise, but I have an '04 M=
X5 with the 6 speed, and it is low. 6th gear at 60mph, the engine is =
turning 3K. Pretty much 20MPH for every 1K on the tach. <div>Br=
yan</div></div><br><div class=3D"ydpef8a3767yiv6628094750gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpef8a3767yiv6628094750gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 2, 202=
0 at 2:27 PM Anthony Rhodes <<a href=3D"mailto:spamiam@comcast.net"; rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">spamiam@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"ydpef8a3767yiv6628094750gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left=
-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">It is indeed pricey. But i=
t appears to be a complete new transmission and all the required adapter st=
uff ready to go. The only way it would be better as a conversion is i=
f it retained the original space cylinder. <br>
<br>
So for a complete new modern (hopefully long life) overdrive transmission, =
the price is not terrible.<br>
<br>
It is likely a better solution than the HVDA because those old Toyota trans=
missions may well be =E2=80=9Cused up=E2=80=9D,not just =E2=80=9Cused=E2=80=
=9D. And they are hard to find. <br>
<br>
For me, I found the right Toyota transmission to be as rare as ... as a fri=
end of mine puts it... as rare as rocking horse manure. &=
nbsp;He may not actually have used the word =E2=80=9Cmanure=E2=80=9D. <br>
<br>
So I like this Miata option!<br>
<br>
Does anyone know the gear ratios? The Moss description does not indic=
ate the ratios. <br>
<br>
-Tony<br>
<br>
Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine<br>
<br>
> On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:02 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-request@autox.t=
eam.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-request@autox.team.net=
</a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:54:49 -0600<br>
> From: Dean Mericas <<a href=3D"mailto:dmericas@gmail.com"; rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank">dmericas@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
> Subject: [TR] Experience with Vitesse 5-speed transmission conversion?=
<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href=3D"mailto:3D51629D-3D80-44B6-9EEF-01C3BD216362=
@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">3D51629D-3D80-44B6-9EEF-01C3=
BD216362@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8<br>
> <br>
> I see that Moss now carries an a 5-speed transmission conversion that =
appears to use Miata internals in a custom case and bell housing. It isn?t =
cheap, but as an apparent drop in replacement I think the installed cost ma=
y be about the same as the Toyota-based HVDA kit.<br>
> <br>
> Does anyone on the list have first hand experience with this particula=
r conversion?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks. <br>
> <br>
> Dean Mericas<br>
> 1965 TR4<br>
> Austin, TX<br>
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