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Re: [TR] [6pack] Lucas PI

To: Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Lucas PI
From: John Macartney <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk>
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 16:51:43 +0100
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If all you want is an injected TR performance, I=E2=80=99d do this. Buy a us=
 spec car.

TR5 camshaft, still available in U.K. and a bit better too than the original=
. Shave the head to at least 9.5:1, fit flat top pistons, a Lucas D25 or 26 d=
izzy, the equivalent of the SAH 6-3-1 extractor exhaust manifold, two 1.75 S=
U carbs and bingo, you=E2=80=99re there. Ideally, if the donor car is a late=
 model 6, email Chris Witor in the U.K. for a 215019 head. These didn=E2=80=99=
t go to the US but we=E2=80=99re the best heads of the lot. Chris will confi=
rm this and he=E2=80=99s a Triumph performance specialist. Goes without sayi=
ng you=E2=80=99ll need anoverdrive. J type is ok but A type better imho. You=
=E2=80=99ll then have a car that is the injected versions performance equal i=
n every way. These things are what we do in the U.K. to all 250s and carbed 6=
s that find their way back here. Good luck

Jonmac

Whenever I feel the need for exercise, experience has shown me it is better t=
o lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL

> On 30 Aug 2019, at 15:43, Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrot=
e:
>=20
> Thanks, Jonmac:  I don=E2=80=99t have the car yet =E2=80=93 and in fact am=
 still going back-and-forth about whether to buy it.  I=E2=80=99ll keep you p=
osted !
>=20
> Andrew
> =20
> From: John Macartney [mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk]=20
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:50 PM
> To: Andrew Uprichard
> Cc: Triumphs; 6pack@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Lucas PI
> =20
> Can I help? Did the Lucas Service course, thefactory service course and ow=
ned a saloon with the pi engine to full U.K. police performance spec. Doubt y=
ou=E2=80=99ll find too many in the US with experience of the system. PI cars=
 were never sold in North America in the day, though a very small number hav=
e snuck in since then. A word of advice. If you=E2=80=99re tempted to fiddle=
 with the PI system, put everything you=E2=80=99ve learned about carbed cars=
 entirely to one side. The Lucas system is a whole different ball game with v=
ery unique rules. That said, it=E2=80=99s a great setup but you need to know=
 what you=E2=80=99re doing before you start:)
> =20
> Jonmac
>=20
> Whenever I feel the need for exercise, experience has shown me it is bette=
r to lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL
>=20
> On 29 Aug 2019, at 22:20, Andrew Uprichard via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
>=20
> Who is the go-to guy in the US for questions on the Lucas PI system?
> =20
> Andrew Uprichard
> Jackson, Michigan
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">If all you want is an injected TR performan=
ce, I=E2=80=99d do this. Buy a us spec car.<div><br></div><div>TR5 camshaft,=
 still available in U.K. and a bit better too than the original. Shave the h=
ead to at least 9.5:1, fit flat top pistons, a Lucas D25 or 26 dizzy, the eq=
uivalent of the SAH 6-3-1 extractor exhaust manifold, two 1.75 SU carbs and b=
ingo, you=E2=80=99re there. Ideally, if the donor car is a late model 6, ema=
il Chris Witor in the U.K. for a 215019 head. These didn=E2=80=99t go to the=
 US but we=E2=80=99re the best heads of the lot. Chris will confirm this and=
 he=E2=80=99s a Triumph performance specialist. Goes without saying you=E2=80=
=99ll need anoverdrive. J type is ok but A type better imho. You=E2=80=99ll t=
hen have a car that is the injected versions performance equal in every way.=
 These things are what we do in the U.K. to all 250s and carbed 6s that find=
 their way back here. Good luck</div><div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div i=
d=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Whenever I feel the need for exercise, e=
xperience has shown me it is better to lie down until the feeling goes away.=
 WINSTON CHURCHILL</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 30 Aug 2019, at 15:43, Andre=
w Uprichard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net";>auprichard@upric=
hard.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&=
quot;;color:#1F497D">Thanks, Jonmac:&nbsp; I don=E2=80=99t have the car yet =E2=
=80=93 and in fact am still going back-and-forth about whether to buy it.&nb=
sp; I=E2=80=99ll keep you posted !<br><br>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quo=
t;serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"=
border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> John Macartney [<=
a href=3D"mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk";>mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.=
org.uk</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:50 PM<br><b>To:</b>=
 Andrew Uprichard<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs; <a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team=
.net">6pack@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Lucas PI<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Can I help? Did the Lucas Service course, thefactory serv=
ice course and owned a saloon with the pi engine to full U.K. police perform=
ance spec. Doubt you=E2=80=99ll find too many in the US with experience of t=
he system. PI cars were never sold in North America in the day, though a ver=
y small number have snuck in since then. A word of advice. If you=E2=80=99re=
 tempted to fiddle with the PI system, put everything you=E2=80=99ve learned=
 about carbed cars entirely to one side. The Lucas system is a whole differe=
nt ball game with very unique rules. That said, it=E2=80=99s a great setup b=
ut you need to know what you=E2=80=99re doing before you start:)<o:p></o:p><=
/p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jonmac<o:p></o:p></p><div id=3D"App=
leMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Whenever I feel the need for exercis=
e, experience has shown me it is better to lie down until the feeling goes a=
way. WINSTON CHURCHILL<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 29 Aug 2019, at 22:20, Andrew Uprichard via=
 6pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-=
bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Who is the go-to guy in the US for q=
uestions on the Lucas PI system?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Andrew Uprichard</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New R=
oman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Jackson, Michigan</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><=
/blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div>=
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