--===============3170321625361734951==
--Apple-Webmail-42--85bb058b-fda7-424a-b4b8-63900532dc1f
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
charset=utf-8;
format=flowed
Thanks Greg - that certainly explains the two MGA looking cars in that pho=
to in 1951.=0A=0ARye=0A=0AOn July 18, 2019 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lemon <grglmn@=
gmail.com> wrote:=0A=0AMGA Prototype, EX172 based on the MG TD.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
http://www.classiccarportraits.co.uk/pages2/MG_EX172_1951.htm=0A=0Araced b=
y MG at LeMans.=0A=0ATriumphs and MGs did not generally=C2=A0 race in the =
same class SCCA in the 50s, though they would often be in the same combine=
d class for races.=C2=A0 Here is the most comprehensive site I know of for=
fifties and sixties (the best!) sports car racing http://www.maseratiexpe=
rts.com/SCCA%20results%20test%20page.htm don't know why this doesn't show =
up as a link, but worked when I copied and pasted, scroll down for entry f=
ields and results by year.=0A=0AOf interest in 1968 the TR250 was very com=
petitive with the then 2 liter 911 in C production SCCA, but they could no=
t quite get it done in the championship race=0A=0AGreg Lemon=0ATR250=0A=0A=
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 6:59 PM TeriAnn J. Wakeman <tjwakeman@gmail.com> wro=
te:=0AOn 7/17/19 4:43 PM, EDWARD WOODS wrote:=0AWell, in 1951 the TR2 hadn=
't been invented. But then, neither had the MGA. So what's wrong here? The=
year?=0Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3D4&v=3Dp2qrOg8COx8=0A=
Relevant section starts at 8:00 minutes=0A=0A=0AEd=0AOn July 17, 2019 at 3=
:26 PM Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com> wrote: =0A=0A=C2=A0=0AI don't know th=
e racing history of the two cars together, but the racing heritage of Pors=
che out performing bigger horsepower cars is legendary.=C2=A0 It all start=
ed with a 356 in 1951 when Porsche entered Le Mans with a 1.1 liter car.=C2=
=A0 The link below is to a fantastic video of the restoration of that car.=
=C2=A0 At 2:30 minute mark into the video is a still photo from the race, =
and you can see two MGAs in the photo, but I don't see a Triumph.=C2=A0 It=
was the smallest engine in the race, and=C2=A0they won the race, and that=
started Porsche racing.=C2=A0 If they had lost or not done well, history =
of Porsche would have been changed.=0A=0AThe rest of the video is pretty c=
ool how they found the car, through years of research they were able to ve=
rify it was the car that won Le Mans, and then they did an amazing job to =
restore it.=C2=A0 The CEO of Kettle potato chips, he is the owner of the c=
ar.=0A=0Ahttps://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a20652380/1=
951-porsche-356-sl-le-mans-restoration/=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn July 17, 2019 =
at 10:16 AM, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote: =0A=0ACool.=C2=A0 Th=
anks, Rye.=C2=A0 That's sort of what I'm asking.=C2=A0 Engine size can be =
made up by gear ratios, OD's, cams, and so on.=C2=A0 So the Spyder was 500=
cc's smaller than a Triumph, but significantly outperformed?=0AOn July 17=
, 2019 at 12:30 PM Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com> wrote: =0A=0AOne correcti=
on, James Dean died in a 550 Porsche Spyder, one of only 90 produced, not =
a Speedster.=C2=A0 It had a=C2=A01.5 liter engine, but it was a Carrera en=
gine with twin overhead cams,=C2=A0two separate ignition manifolds=C2=A0an=
d=C2=A0two ignition coils.=C2=A0 It was also a mid engine design like the =
914 and the current Boxter and Cayman.=C2=A0 So this car isn't comparable =
to a=C2=A0Triumph or MGA of that era.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0ARye =0A1960 TR3A=0A196=
3 356=0A1968 912=0A1988 911 Carrera=0A=0A=0A=0AOn July 16, 2019 at 4:48 PM=
, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote: =0A=0AHmmm.=C2=A0 So looking qu=
ickly other street cars of the time, a 1959 Porsche 356 A had a 1.6 liter =
engine; I don't know about the Porsche "speedster" or even if it was diffe=
rent, other than James Dean died in one.=C2=A0 The 1959 MGA had a 1.6 lite=
r.=C2=A0 The Jaguar XK 150 had a 3.8 liter engine.=C2=A0 Karmann Ghia had =
between a 1.1 and 1.3 liter engine.=C2=A0 As far as I can tell the Fiat 85=
0 started in 1964, with an engine a single strong man could seemingly lift=
.=C2=A0 The Sunbeam Alpine was a 1.5 liter.=C2=A0 The Austin Martin DB4 wa=
s 3.7 liters.=C2=A0 Couldn't quickly find the big Healeys four and six cyl=
inder engines.=C2=A0 The Bugeye Sprite was a 0.948 liter; my sister called=
it her putt-putt.=C2=A0 Triumphs and Morgans, of course, ran the same 2 l=
iter engine.=0A=0AAll this said, and certainly subject to any corrections =
you might have, I remain unsure how Triumphs stacked up in races against t=
hese.=C2=A0 Anybody?=0A=0ATerry=0AOn July 16, 2019 at 5:40 PM Randall <tr3=
driver@ca.rr.com> wrote: =0A=0A110 mph in 4th OD is only 4500 rpm.=C2=A0 N=
ot what I call =E2=80=9Ccrank shattering rpm=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 A stock TR3 w=
on=E2=80=99t usually run that fast of course, but 87mm liners were actuall=
y cheaper than 83s, back in the 70s.=C2=A0 (I actually found a set that ha=
d been returned to Warshawski=E2=80=99s in Chicago, better known as JC Whi=
tney, for even less than the usual price.)=0A=C2=A0=0AAnd I=E2=80=99ve run=
4500 for literally hours without a problem.=C2=A0 (Speed enforcement in t=
he desert tends to be lax =C3=B0=C5=B8=CB=9C=C5=A0 )=0A=C2=A0=0ASent from =
Mail for Windows 10=0A=C2=A0=0AFrom: TERRY SMITH=0ASent: Tuesday, July 16,=
2019 1:47 PM=0ATo: Randall=0ACc: Triumphs=0ASubject: Re: [TR] MGA=0A=C2=A0=
=0AThat reminds me.=C2=A0 When I say my TR3 "keeps up with traffic," I'm r=
eferencing traffic on the freeway here (tollway, rather) that clips along =
between 70 and 80 mph.=C2=A0 I've been curious about the various cruising =
speeds and power performances of TR3's and their competition back in the d=
ay, cruising that is without winding up to crank shattering rpm's.=C2=A0 A=
nybody familiar with that?=C2=A0=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A** triumphs@autox.team.net =
** =0A=0ADonate: http://www.team.net/donate.html =0AArchive: http://www.te=
am.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive =0A=0AUnsubscribe/Ma=
nage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net =0A=
=0A=C2=A0=0A** triumphs@autox.team.net **=0A=0ADonate: http://www.team.net=
/donate.html=0AArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.=
team.net/archive=0A=0AUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/op=
tions/triumphs/ryel@mac.com=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A** triumphs@autox.te=
am.net ** =0A=0ADonate: http://www.team.net/donate.html =0AArchive: http:/=
/www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive =0A=0AUnsubsc=
ribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fogbro1@comcas=
t.net =0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A=0A** triumphs@autox.team.net **=0A=0ADonate: http=
://www.team.net/donate.html=0AArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/trium=
phs http://www.team.net/archive=0A=0AUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.tea=
m.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tjwakeman@gmail.com=0A=0A-- =0ABook - The E=
ssential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and Canada =0A2 yea=
rs to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write=0A=0A=
Because the world beckons and life waits for no one=0A** triumphs@autox.te=
am.net **=0A=0ADonate: http://www.team.net/donate.html=0AArchive: http://w=
ww.team.net/pipermail/triumphs=C2=A0 http://www.team.net/archive=0A=0AUnsu=
bscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmai=
l.com=0A** triumphs@autox.team.net **=0A=0ADonate: http://www.team.net/don=
ate.html=0AArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team=
.net/archive=0A=0AUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/option=
s/triumphs/ryel@mac.com=0A
--Apple-Webmail-42--85bb058b-fda7-424a-b4b8-63900532dc1f
type="text/html";
boundary=Apple-Webmail-86--85bb058b-fda7-424a-b4b8-63900532dc1f
--Apple-Webmail-86--85bb058b-fda7-424a-b4b8-63900532dc1f
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
charset=utf-8;
<html><body><div>Thanks Greg - that certainly explains the two MGA looking cars
in tha=
t photo in 1951.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div class=3D"x-=
apple-signature">Rye</div><div><br>On July 18, 2019 at 9:13 AM, Greg Lemon=
<grglmn@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><div class=3D"msg-quote"><div dir=3D"auto">MGA Prototype, EX172 based o=
n the MG TD. <a href=3D"http://www.classiccarportraits.co.uk/p=
ages2/MG_EX172_1951.htm" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.classiccarportraits.c=
o.uk/pages2/MG_EX172_1951.htm">http://www.classiccarportraits.co.uk/pages2=
/MG_EX172_1951.htm</a><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">raced =
by MG at LeMans.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Triump=
hs and MGs did not generally race in the same class SCCA in the 50s,=
though they would often be in the same combined class for races. He=
re is the most comprehensive site I know of for fifties and sixties (the b=
est!) sports car racing <a href=3D"http://www.maseratiexperts.com/SCCA%20r=
esults%20test%20page.htm" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.maseratiexperts.com/=
SCCA%20results%20test%20page.htm">http://www.maseratiexperts.com/SCCA%20re=
sults%20test%20page.htm</a> don't know why this doesn't show up as a link,=
but worked when I copied and pasted, scroll down for entry fields and res=
ults by year.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Of intere=
st in 1968 the TR250 was very competitive with the then 2 liter 911 in C p=
roduction SCCA, but they could not quite get it done in the championship r=
ace</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 6:59 PM TeriAnn J. Wakema=
n <<a href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto:tjwak=
eman@gmail.com">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc sol=
id; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:=
1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div class=3D"m_5351892489354669=
747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-cite-prefix">On 7/17/19=
4:43 PM, EDWARD WOODS wrote:<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><p style=3D=
"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;">Well, in 1951 the TR2 hadn't been invented. But then,=
neither had the MGA. So what's wrong here? The year?<br></p></blockquote>=
<p><a class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943=
292440moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co=
ntinue=3D4&v=3Dp2qrOg8COx8" data-mce-href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/w=
atch?time_continue=3D4&v=3Dp2qrOg8COx8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?=
time_continue=3D4&v=3Dp2qrOg8COx8</a></p><p>Relevant section starts at=
8:00 minutes</p><p><br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite"><p style=3D"color: #=
333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mc=
e-style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt;"><br></p><p style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,ari=
al,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; font-fa=
mily: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Ed<br></p><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">On July 17, 2019 at 3:26 PM Rye Livingston <a class=3D"m_535=
1892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-txt-link-r=
fc2396E" href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com=
"><ryel@mac.com></a> wrote: <br> <br><div> <br></div><div>I don=
't know the racing history of the two cars together, but the racing herita=
ge of Porsche out performing bigger horsepower cars is legendary. It=
all started with a 356 in 1951 when Porsche entered Le Mans with a 1.1 li=
ter car. The link below is to a fantastic video of the restoration o=
f that car. At 2:30 minute mark into the video is a still photo from=
the race, and you can see two MGAs in the photo, but I don't see a Triump=
h. It was the smallest engine in the race, and they won the rac=
e, and that started Porsche racing. If they had lost or not done wel=
l, history of Porsche would have been changed.</div><div><br></div><div>Th=
e rest of the video is pretty cool how they found the car, through years o=
f research they were able to verify it was the car that won Le Mans, and t=
hen they did an amazing job to restore it. The CEO of Kettle potato =
chips, he is the owner of the car.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"htt=
ps://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a20652380/1951-porsche-=
356-sl-le-mans-restoration/" data-mce-href=3D"https://www.roadandtrack.com=
/car-culture/classic-cars/a20652380/1951-porsche-356-sl-le-mans-restoratio=
n/">https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a20652380/1951-p=
orsche-356-sl-le-mans-restoration/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br> On July 17, 2019 at 10:16 AM, TERR=
Y SMITH <a class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-91423595=
34943292440moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net"; data=
-mce-href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net";><terryrs@comcast.net></a> w=
rote: <br> <br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"m_535189=
2489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-msg=
-quote"><p style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvet=
ica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Cool. Thanks, Rye. Tha=
t's sort of what I'm asking. Engine size can be made up by gear rati=
os, OD's, cams, and so on. So the Spyder was 500 cc's smaller than a=
Triumph, but significantly outperformed?<br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
>On July 17, 2019 at 12:30 PM Rye Livingston <a class=3D"m_535189248935466=
9747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" hre=
f=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com";><ryel@m=
ac.com></a> wrote: <br> <br><div><span style=3D"font-family: geneva,san=
s-serif; font-size: 14px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: geneva,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 14px;">One correction, James Dean died in a 550 Porsche Spyd=
er, one of only 90 produced, not a Speedster. It had a 1.5 lite=
r engine, but it was a Carrera engine with twin overhead cams, <span =
style=3D"color: #222222; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; font-styl=
e: normal; font-weight: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: i=
nline; white-space: normal; background-color: #ffffff;" data-mce-style=3D"=
color: #222222; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; font-style: normal=
; font-weight: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline; wh=
ite-space: normal; background-color: #ffffff;">two separate ignition manif=
olds and two ignition coils. It was also a mid engine desi=
gn like the 914 and the current Boxter and Cayman. So this car isn't=
comparable to a Triumph or MGA of that era.</span></span></div><div>=
<span style=3D"color: #222222; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; fon=
t-family: geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-wei=
ght: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline; white-space:=
normal; background-color: #ffffff;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #222222; tex=
t-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; font-family: geneva,sans-serif; font-=
size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; word-spacing: 0px; fl=
oat: none; display: inline; white-space: normal; background-color: #ffffff=
;"><br> </span></div> <div class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-744849062=
9694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-x-apple-signat=
ure"><span style=3D"font-family: geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" data=
-mce-style=3D"font-family: geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Rye</span>=
<br> <span style=3D"font-family: geneva,sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"fo=
nt-family: geneva,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mce-s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 14px;">1960 TR3A</span></span></div><div class=3D"m_535=
1892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-=
ox-17f5f529b1-x-apple-signature"><span style=3D"font-family: geneva,sans-s=
erif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: geneva,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 14px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 14px;">1963 356</span></span=
></div><div class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359=
534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-x-apple-signature"><span style=3D"=
font-family: geneva,sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: geneva,san=
s-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 14=
px;">1968 912</span></span></div><div class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-744=
8490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-x-apple-=
signature"><span style=3D"font-family: geneva,sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D=
"font-family: geneva,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mc=
e-style=3D"font-size: 14px;">1988 911 Carrera</span></span></div><div clas=
s=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9=
e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-x-apple-signature"><span style=3D"font-family: gen=
eva,sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: geneva,sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 14px;"><br> </span=
></span></div><div class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-=
9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-x-apple-signature"><span st=
yle=3D"font-family: geneva,sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: gen=
eva,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-s=
ize: 14px;"><br> </span></span></div><div><br> On July 16, 2019 at 4:48 PM=
, TERRY SMITH <a class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-91=
42359534943292440moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net=
" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net";><terryrs@comcast.net>=
</a> wrote: <br> <br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"m_=
5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d8218=
89-ox-17f5f529b1-msg-quote"><p style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helve=
tica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333;=
font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hmmm. So=
looking quickly other street cars of the time, a 1959 Porsche 356 A had a=
1.6 liter engine; I don't know about the Porsche "speedster" or even if i=
t was different, other than James Dean died in one. The 1959 MGA had=
a 1.6 liter. The Jaguar XK 150 had a 3.8 liter engine. Karman=
n Ghia had between a 1.1 and 1.3 liter engine. As far as I can tell =
the Fiat 850 started in 1964, with an engine a single strong man could see=
mingly lift. The Sunbeam Alpine was a 1.5 liter. The Austin Ma=
rtin DB4 was 3.7 liters. Couldn't quickly find the big Healeys four =
and six cylinder engines. The Bugeye Sprite was a 0.948 liter; my si=
ster called it her putt-putt. Triumphs and Morgans, of course, ran t=
he same 2 liter engine.<br></p><p style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: he=
lvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #3333=
33; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></p><p =
style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,s=
ans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">All this said, and certainly subject to any c=
orrections you might have, I remain unsure how Triumphs stacked up in race=
s against these. Anybody?<br></p><p style=3D"color: #333333; font-fa=
mily: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"colo=
r: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br=
></p><p style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica=
,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Terry<br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite=
">On July 16, 2019 at 5:40 PM Randall <a class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-=
7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"ma=
ilto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com";><=
;tr3driver@ca.rr.com></a> wrote: <br> <br><div class=3D"m_5351892489354=
669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f52=
9b1-ox-cc84e2b33b-WordSection1"><p class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-744849=
0629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-ox-cc84e2b3=
3b-MsoNormal">110 mph in 4<sup>th</sup> OD is only 4500 rpm. Not wha=
t I call =E2=80=9Ccrank shattering rpm=E2=80=9D. A stock TR3 won=E2=80=
=99t usually run that fast of course, but 87mm liners were actually cheape=
r than 83s, back in the 70s. (I actually found a set that had been r=
eturned to Warshawski=E2=80=99s in Chicago, better known as JC Whitney, fo=
r even less than the usual price.)</p><p class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-=
7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-ox-cc=
84e2b33b-MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-74484906=
29694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-ox-cc84e2b33b=
-MsoNormal">And I=E2=80=99ve run 4500 for literally hours without a proble=
m. (Speed enforcement in the desert tends to be lax <span style=3D"f=
ont-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: '=
Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif;">=C3=B0=C5=B8=CB=9C=C5=A0</span> )</p><p class=
=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e=
7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"m_53=
51892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889=
-ox-17f5f529b1-ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.mi=
crosoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" data-mce-href=3D"https://go.microsoft=
.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3D"m_535=
1892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-=
ox-17f5f529b1-ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal"> </p><div style=3D"border-widt=
h: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: #e1e1e1=
currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" data-mce-style=3D"borde=
r-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: #=
e1e1e1 currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"m_535=
1892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-=
ox-17f5f529b1-ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal" style=3D"padding: 0in; border: curr=
entColor;" data-mce-style=3D"padding: 0in; border: currentColor;"><strong>=
From: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net"; data-mce-href=3D"mai=
lto:terryrs@comcast.net">TERRY SMITH</a><br> <strong>Sent: </strong>Tuesda=
y, July 16, 2019 1:47 PM<br> <strong>To: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:tr3dri=
ver@ca.rr.com" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com";>Randall</a><br=
> <strong>Cc: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; data-mce=
-href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>Triumphs</a><br> <strong>Subject:=
</strong>Re: [TR] MGA</p></div><p class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-744849=
0629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-ox-cc84e2b3=
3b-MsoNormal"> </p><p><span style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: 'He=
lvetica',sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; f=
ont-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">That reminds me.&nbs=
p; When I say my TR3 "keeps up with traffic," I'm referencing traffic on t=
he freeway here (tollway, rather) that clips along between 70 and 80 mph.&=
nbsp; I've been curious about the various cruising speeds and power perfor=
mances of TR3's and their competition back in the day, cruising that is wi=
thout winding up to crank shattering rpm's. Anybody familiar with th=
at? </span></p></div></blockquote><p class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_=
-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-defa=
ult-style" style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvet=
ica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br> </p><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">** <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; data-mce-href=3D"mail=
to:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> ** <br> <br> Donat=
e: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html"; data-mce-href=3D"http://www=
.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a> <br> Archive: <=
a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs"; data-mce-href=3D"http://=
www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a=
> <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive"; data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team=
.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a> <br> <br> Unsubscribe/Manage=
: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcas=
t.net" data-mce-href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ter=
ryrs@comcast.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@c=
omcast.net</a> <br></blockquote><p class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-744849=
0629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-default-sty=
le" style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font=
-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,ari=
al,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br> </p><div class=3D"m_5351892489=
354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5=
f529b1-_stretch"><span class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-744849062969465732=
4m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-ox-17f5f529b1-body-text-content">** <=
a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br> <br> Donate: <a href=3D=
"http://www.team.net/donate.html"; data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/don=
ate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br> Archive: <a href=3D"http=
://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/p=
ipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.team.net/archive" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive";>=
tp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com" data-mce-href=3D=
"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com";>http://autox=
.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com</a><br> </span></div></div=
></blockquote></div></blockquote><p class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-74484=
90629694657324m_-9142359534943292440ox-9e7d821889-default-style" style=3D"=
color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"=
data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif=
; font-size: 12pt;"><br> </p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><=
p class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-91423595349432924=
40default-style" style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,arial,san=
s-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: =
helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br> </p><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">** <a class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-=
9142359534943292440moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox=
.team.net" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox=
.team.net</a> ** <br> <br> Donate: <a class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-744=
8490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http:=
//www.team.net/donate.html" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.ht=
ml">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a> <br> Archive: <a class=3D"m_535189=
2489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-txt-link-free=
text" href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs"; data-mce-href=3D"htt=
p://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumph=
s</a> <a class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534=
943292440moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive"; data-=
mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive";>http://www.team.net/archive</a> <=
br> <br> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-744849062=
9694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://auto=
x.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fogbro1@comcast.net" data-mce-href=3D"=
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fogbro1@comcast.net";>http:/=
/autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fogbro1@comcast.net</a> <br></blo=
ckquote><p class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-91423595=
34943292440default-style" style=3D"color: #333333; font-family: helvetica,=
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #333333; font=
-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br> </p><br>=
<fieldset class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-914235953=
4943292440mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><pre class=3D"m_535189248935466=
9747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-quote-pre">** <a class=
=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-t=
xt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; data-mce-href=
=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **=0A=0ADo=
nate: <a class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534=
943292440moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html"; d=
ata-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html";>http://www.team.net/donat=
e.html</a>=0AArchive: <a class=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657=
324m_-9142359534943292440moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.team.ne=
t/pipermail/triumphs" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/trium=
phs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a class=3D"m_53518924893=
54669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-txt-link-freetext"=
href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive"; data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net=
/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a>=0A=0AUnsubscribe/Manage: <a clas=
s=3D"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-=
txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/=
tjwakeman@gmail.com" data-mce-href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/option=
s/triumphs/tjwakeman@gmail.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triu=
mphs/tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>=0A</pre></blockquote><p><br></p><div class=3D=
"m_5351892489354669747m_-7448490629694657324m_-9142359534943292440moz-sign=
ature">-- <br><p align=3D"center"><a href=3D"http://overlandtravel.us"; dat=
a-mce-href=3D"http://overlandtravel.us";>Book - The Essential Guide to Over=
land Travel in the United States and Canada</a> <br> 2 years to write and =
38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write<br> <br> <b>Because =
the world beckons and life waits for no one</b></p></div></div>** <a href=3D=
"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.te=
am.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br> <br> Donate: <a href=3D"http://=
www.team.net/donate.html" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html=
">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br> Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.t=
eam.net/pipermail/triumphs" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail=
/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href=3D"htt=
p://www.team.net/archive" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive";>ht=
tp://www.team.net/archive</a><br> <br> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href=3D"http=
://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmail.com" data-mce-href=
=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmail.com";>http:=
//autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmail.com</a><br></blockq=
uote></div><div class=3D"_stretch"><span class=3D"body-text-content">** <a=
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto:triumphs@=
autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.team.net/donate.html" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/donat=
e.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href=3D"http://=
www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipe=
rmail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href=3D"http=
://www.team.net/archive" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive";>htt=
p://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href=3D"http://=
autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com" data-mce-href=3D"htt=
p://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com">http://autox.tea=
m.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com</a><br></span></div></div></bl=
ockquote></div></body></html>
--Apple-Webmail-86--85bb058b-fda7-424a-b4b8-63900532dc1f--
--Apple-Webmail-42--85bb058b-fda7-424a-b4b8-63900532dc1f--
--===============3170321625361734951==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
** triumphs@autox.team.net **
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive
--===============3170321625361734951==--
|