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Re: [TR] Will a 'out-of-spot' tappet necessarily be higher, like this?

To: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Will a 'out-of-spot' tappet necessarily be higher, like this?
From: Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 13:06:04 -0400
Cc: "Triumph list Team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
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What's special about brass or bronze?  I know their softer, but, seems like
the coat hanger would be sufficient to hold it down.

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:01 PM Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder if a magnet at the end of one of those wands would reposition
> it?  Is there any danger that something will topple or get misaligned?
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> You don't want to force anything, meaning don't try to tap it down into
>> place.
>>
>> As Bill said, the easiest is to pull the head.  Keep in mind if you do
>> that you need to use a new head gasket when re-installing the head and go
>> through proper torque procedures, all of which is easy to do, just make
>> sure you do it.
>>
>> As I was in your situation once, I'd take more time, and maybe a lot more
>> time, and take a flashlight and peak down the holes that have the tappets
>> in place so you know what it looks like, and then look down the one you're
>> dealing with, and with a long screwdriver try to coax that tappet back into
>> position.  If it's got plenty of oil on it, once it's aligned it should
>> sink down in place with little to no pushing from you.
>>
>> Also, as someone else said, check to see if you have a local Triumph
>> Club.  If you do, join it, and I'm sure there would be some members who
>> would love to come over and help you out.  It's what we do!  :-)
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Rye Livingston
>> Activities Chairman
>> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
>> Celebrating our 60 Year Anniversary
>> 1960 TR3A
>> PH: 530-FIND-RYE
>>
>> On Sep 29, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I received my new pushrod from Moss last night and was impressed, it
>> looks the same length as stock, but was slightly heavier by weight.  Others
>> had forewarned that it might be chinese, and it could still be, although I
>> don't know what would ever tell me if that were an issue.
>>
>> Right now, my emphasis is on getting the thing running. something it
>> hasn't done in years. I remember saying that I had seen one pushrod in
>> particular had non-concentric circles appearing down the pushrod tubes  and
>> I surmised that this must be what everyone informed me must be an out of
>> spot tappet that I had been warned about. Trouble is: I forgot to write
>> down which one of the eight pushrod tubes that I had seen it in.
>> I also might have worked that tappet over and in-line with the tube such
>> that it now has the proper concentric circles.  On thing I do know for
>> sure, is that one particular tappet causes it's pushrod to set a couple of
>> inches higher ( as shown in the pic).  How do I get that tappet down? I
>> slightly hit it's pushrod with my palm, but it would not drop down.  I do
>> have an extra pushrod if others think I ought to tap it down using a
>> pushrod,  Heck, I proably could use the old bent pushrod which I have now
>> replaced, to tap it in place.  I just don't want to attempt this unless
>> others give me a green light.
>> Thanks, Paul Dorsey  aka RUSTY ACRES
>> Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>
>> 1:32 PM (1 hour ago)
>>
>> to me
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">What&#39;s special about brass or bronze?=C2=A0 I know the=
ir softer, but, seems like the coat hanger would be sufficient to hold it d=
own.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 1, 20=
18 at 1:01 PM Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com";>dorpaul=
1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I wonder if a magnet at the end of one of those wands would reposi=
tion it?=C2=A0 Is there any danger that something will topple or get misali=
gned?=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oc=
t 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div><div>You don&#39;t want to force anything, meaning=C2=A0don&#=
39;t try to tap it down into place. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>As Bill=
 said, the easiest is to pull the head.=C2=A0 Keep in mind if you do that y=
ou need to use a new head gasket when re-installing the head and go through=
 proper torque procedures, all of which is easy to do, just make sure you d=
o it.</div><div><br></div><div>As I was in your situation once, I&#39;d tak=
e more time, and maybe a lot more time, and take a flashlight and peak down=
 the holes that have the tappets in place so you know what it looks like, a=
nd then look down the one you&#39;re dealing with, and with a long screwdri=
ver=C2=A0try to coax=C2=A0that tappet back into position.=C2=A0 If it&#39;s=
 got plenty of oil on it, once it&#39;s aligned it should sink down in plac=
e with little to no pushing from you.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, as som=
eone else said, check to see if you have a local Triumph Club.=C2=A0 If you=
 do, join it, and I&#39;m sure there would be some members who would love t=
o come over and help you out.=C2=A0 It&#39;s what we do! =C2=A0:-)</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Good luck,</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"m_-2534400364=
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le-signature">1960 TR3A<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE</div><div><br>On Sep 29, 2018, =
at 12:50 PM, Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote=
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d was impressed, it looks the same length as stock, but was slightly heavie=
r by weight.=C2=A0 Others had forewarned that it might be chinese, and it c=
ould still be, although I don&#39;t know what would ever tell me if that we=
re an issue.<div><br></div><div>Right now, my emphasis is on getting the th=
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nd in-line with the tube such that it now has the proper concentric circles=
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t&#39;s pushrod to set a couple of inches higher ( as shown in the pic).=C2=
=A0 How do I get that tappet down? I slightly hit it&#39;s pushrod with my =
palm, but it would not drop down.=C2=A0 I do have an extra pushrod if other=
s think I ought to tap it down using a pushrod,=C2=A0 Heck, I proably could=
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