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the man speaks the truth
From: Dave=20
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:59 AM
To: mdporter@dfn.com ; triumphs@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [TR] New Alternator - Stag
Indeed. Many years ago when I was working in HVAC I was trying to =
calculate air flow temperature changes based on a coil rated at some =
value (eg: 22 MBTU/Hr) and my calculations kept coming out way out of =
the realm of reality. By a factor of 1000. Then I realized that the =
"M" stood for Mille (1000 in Latin). Remember the Mille Miglia is a =
race of 1000 miles, not 1,000,000 miles. I think that by the end of a =
million mile race all the spectators will have gone home.
So when does "M" mean 1,000 and when does it mean 1,000,000? The answer =
to that is the same as it is to most of life's questions: "It depends." =
For example, how big is a barrel? Answer: It depends. A barrel of beer =
is 31 gallons. In the US. In Brittan it is 43 gallons (US). But most =
fluid barrels are half a hogshead (31.5 US gallons). And a barrel of =
oil is 42 US gallons.
Context is everything.
BTW, how much is a buttload? Two hogsheads. Look it up.
Dave Massey
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Porter <mdporter@dfn.com>
To: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 8, 2016 2:30 am
Subject: Re: [TR] New Alternator - Stag
On 9/7/2016 6:45 AM, Chad wrote:
> K is for 000 M is for 000 000
>
Umm, not exactly. In the UK and some of the commonwealth countries, M=20
is traditionally and colloquially used for thousands, because it's=20
derived from the Latin numeral for one thousand. Kilo (or K) is the=20
prefix typically used in more recent scientific notation, taken from=20
Greek (and initially adopted by the French circa early 19th century as a =
means of standardization of measurement, on which the ISO gram-meter=20
system is based). It's also common in the UK to hear "thousand=20
million," rather than "billion," probably for the same reason--there=20
was no Latin equivalent for billion. In Latin numeracy, a million was=20
the largest denomination, and was represented by an 'M' with a bar over=20
it, the bar representing "times 1000."
That's roughly the etymology of it as I've been able to gather over the=20
years.
Cheers.
--=20
Michael Porter
Roswell, NM
Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking =
distance....
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:59 AM</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:mdporter@dfn.com";>mdporter@dfn.com</A> ; <A=20
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size=3D4>Indeed. Many years ago when I was working in HVAC I was =
trying to=20
calculate air flow temperature changes based on a coil rated at some =
value (eg:=20
22 MBTU/Hr) and my calculations kept coming out way out of the realm of=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D4>reality. By a factor of 1000. Then I =
realized=20
that the "M" stood for Mille (1000 in Latin). Remember the Mille =
Miglia is=20
a race of 1000 miles, not 1,000,000 miles. I think that by the end =
of a=20
million mile race all the spectators will have gone home.<BR><BR>So when =
does=20
"M" mean 1,000 and when does it mean 1,000,000? The answer to that =
is the=20
same as it is to most of life's questions: "It depends." For =
example, how=20
big is a barrel? Answer: It depends. A barrel of beer is 31=20
gallons. In the US. In Brittan it is 43 gallons (US). =
But most=20
fluid barrels are half a hogshead (31.5 US gallons). And a barrel =
of oil=20
is 42 US gallons.<BR><BR>Context is everything.<BR><BR>BTW, how much is =
a=20
buttload? Two hogsheads. Look it up.<BR></FONT>
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<DIV style=3D"CLEAR: both"><FONT size=3D4>Dave =
Massey</FONT><BR><BR></DIV>
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black">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR>From: Michael Porter <mdporter@dfn.com><BR>To: =
triumphs=20
<triumphs@autox.team.net><BR>Sent: Thu, Sep 8, 2016 2:30 =
am<BR>Subject:=20
Re: [TR] New Alternator - Stag<BR><BR>On 9/7/2016 6:45 AM, Chad =
wrote:<BR>> K=20
is for 000 M is for 000 000<BR>><BR><BR>Umm, not exactly. In the UK =
and some=20
of the commonwealth countries, M <BR>is traditionally and colloquially =
used for=20
thousands, because it's <BR>derived from the Latin numeral for one =
thousand.=20
Kilo (or K) is the <BR>prefix typically used in more recent scientific =
notation,=20
taken from <BR>Greek (and initially adopted by the French circa early =
19th=20
century as a <BR>means of standardization of measurement, on which the =
ISO=20
gram-meter <BR>system is based). It's also common in the UK to hear =
"thousand=20
<BR>million," rather than "billion," probably for the same reason--there =
<BR>was=20
no Latin equivalent for billion. In Latin numeracy, a million was =
<BR>the=20
largest denomination, and was represented by an 'M' with a bar over =
<BR>it, the=20
bar representing "times 1000."<BR><BR>That's roughly the etymology of it =
as I've=20
been able to gather over the <BR>years.<BR><BR><BR>Cheers.<BR><BR>--=20
<BR><BR><BR>Michael Porter<BR>Roswell, NM<BR><BR><BR>Never let anyone =
drive you=20
crazy when you know it's within walking distance....<BR><BR><BR><BR>** =
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