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Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke

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Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke
From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 08:15:51 -0400
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What year is the car?  In the 73 and later cars the carbs have a valve that=
 diverts the float bowl vents from a port on the face of the carb (air filt=
er) to a port that is connected to the charcoal canister.  These can get st=
uck in one position or the other and the canisters often clog or fill up wi=
th gas. Or the lines get plugged.  The diverter valves will open the port o=
n the faceof the carb when the throttle is off-idle so see if there is any =
difference when the throttle is cranked open.

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Dave Massey


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From: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com>
To: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>; wbeech <wbeech@flash.net>
Cc: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke


Adjusted the floats. Pulled the chokes to get started. Cranked a few times =
and didn't start. Figured it needed fuel pumped. So I pulled the manual lev=
er to fill the carbs. Stopped pumping when I saw gasoline squirting out the=
 choke  (enrichment) valve. I am confused about what could be going on here=
. I have other carbs I can pull the valve and trade. But that may not be th=
e whole story.

Creig

From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:30:48 PM
To: wbeech@flash.net; creig555@live.com
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question
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Another possibility is if the float bowl vents are clogged there is no plac=
e for the air to go and the floats will never rise up to shut off the gas f=
low.


Dave Massey






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From: Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net>
To: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com>
Cc: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>; triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 9:14 am
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question



Ditto Dave.  =20
Just had that same problem with a recent non-TR acquisition.   PO had insta=
lled the higher pressure pump and the car instantly flooded as soon as it w=
as turned off.  Much fiddling and head scratching before I replaced the fue=
l pump with a 2-3psi Facet and problem was solved.=20

Sent from my VIC-64

On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com> wrote:



Mechanical pump.




From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:52 AM
To: creig555@live.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question
=20

Is he running an electric fuel pump?  If so is it a 2 - 3 PSI unit or the h=
igher, more common 5 - 7 PSI pump?  the higher pressure may be overcoming t=
he float valves.




Dave Massey






-----Original Message-----
From: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com>
To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2016 5:24 pm
Subject: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question


My friend's TR6 was running poorly. After the car had been running, and was=
 turned off, I noticed drips of gasoline dropping from the port below the f=
orward carb just in front of the intake manifold. I concluded the Gross jet=
 was not stopping the flow of gas to the carb and gas was getting pushed in=
to the engine. So I replaced both float valves with standard valves and als=
o changed both floats. After putting everything back together, I ran the ca=
r for a few minutes and turned it off. It was dripping gas out the same por=
t. Looked in the throat from the air filter side and saw a small puddle of =
gas in the lower area right in front of the venturi. As far as I know, that=
 means the gas isn't shutting off. Perhaps I didn't adjust the float correc=
tly. Or there is something at the fuel inlet orifice allowing gas to bypass=
 the valve. Is there anything I am missing here? Could the enrichment valve=
  (choke) be the culprit? I haven't touched that yet. I adjusted the new fl=
oat to fully close the valve when the mold line of the float was parallel w=
ith the horizontal edge of the carb where the fuel reservoir attaches.

Am I missing anything else here?=20

Thanks=20
Creig Houghtaling


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<font size="4">What year is the car?&nbsp; In the </font><font size="4">73 and 
later cars the carbs have a valve that diverts the float bowl vents from a port 
on the face of the carb (air filter) to a port that is connected to the 
charcoal canister.&nbsp; These can get stuck in one position or the other and 
the canisters often clog or fill up with gas. Or the lines get plugged.&nbsp; 
The diverter valves will open the port on the faceof the carb when the throttle 
is off-idle so see if there is any difference when the throttle is cranked 
open.<br>
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From: Creig Houghtaling &lt;creig555@live.com&gt;<br>

To: Dave &lt;dave1massey@cs.com&gt;; wbeech &lt;wbeech@flash.net&gt;<br>

Cc: triumphs &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>

Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 9:53 pm<br>

Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke<br>

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Adjusted the floats. Pulled the chokes to get started. Cranked a few times and 
didn't start. Figured it needed fuel pumped. So I pulled the manual lever to 
fill the carbs. Stopped pumping when I saw gasoline squirting out the 
choke&nbsp; (enrichment) valve. I am
 confused about what could be going on here. I have other carbs I can pull the 
valve and trade. But that may not be the whole story.
<br>


<br>


Creig<br>


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sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Dave &lt;<a 
removedlink__9503ad2a-ed49-4252-a409-06e8a82fd9de__href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;<br>


<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:30:48 PM<br>


<b>To:</b> <a 
removedlink__9503ad2a-ed49-4252-a409-06e8a82fd9de__href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net";>wbeech@flash.net</a>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question</font>


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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="black" size="4"><font 
size="4">Another possibility is if the float bowl vents are clogged there is no 
place for the air to go and the floats will never rise up to shut off the gas 
flow.</font>


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<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave Massey</font><br>


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 &lt;<a 
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To: Creig Houghtaling &lt;<a 
removedlink__9503ad2a-ed49-4252-a409-06e8a82fd9de__href="mailto:creig555@live.com";>creig555@live.com</a>&gt;<br>


Cc: Dave &lt;<a 
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 triumphs &lt;<a 
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Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 9:14 am<br>


Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question<br>


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<div>Ditto Dave. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>




<div id="AppleMailSignature">Just had that same problem with a recent non-TR 
acquisition. &nbsp; PO had installed the higher pressure pump and the car 
instantly flooded as soon as it was turned off. &nbsp;Much fiddling and head 
scratching before I replaced the fuel pump
 with a 2-3psi Facet and problem was solved.&nbsp;<br>


<br>


Sent from my VIC-64</div>




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On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Creig Houghtaling &lt;<a 
target="_blank">creig555@live.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>


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<div>Mechanical pump.<br>


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sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Dave &lt;<a 
target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;<br>


<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:52 AM<br>


<b>To:</b> <a target="_blank">
creig555@live.com</a>; <a target="_blank">
triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>


<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question</font>


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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="black" size="4"><font 
size="4">Is he running an electric fuel pump?&nbsp; If so is it a 2 - 3 PSI 
unit or the higher, more common 5 - 7 PSI pump?&nbsp; the higher pressure may 
be overcoming the float valves.</font>


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<div style="clear: both;"><font size="4">Dave Massey</font><br>


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10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>


From: Creig Houghtaling &lt;<a target="_blank">creig555@live.com</a>&gt;<br>


To: Triumph List &lt;<a target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>


Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2016 5:24 pm<br>


Subject: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question<br>


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<div class="aolReplacedBody">My friend's TR6 was running poorly. After the car 
had been running, and was turned off, I noticed drips of gasoline dropping from 
the port below the forward carb just in front of the intake manifold. I 
concluded the Gross jet was
 not stopping the flow of gas to the carb and gas was getting pushed into the 
engine. So I replaced both float valves with standard valves and also changed 
both floats. After putting everything back together, I ran the car for a few 
minutes and turned it off.
 It was dripping gas out the same port. Looked in the throat from the air 
filter side and saw a small puddle of gas in the lower area right in front of 
the venturi. As far as I know, that means the gas isn't shutting off. Perhaps I 
didn't adjust the float correctly.
 Or there is something at the fuel inlet orifice allowing gas to bypass the 
valve. Is there anything I am missing here? Could the enrichment valve&nbsp; 
(choke) be the culprit? I haven't touched that yet. I adjusted the new float to 
fully close the valve when the
 mold line of the float was parallel with the horizontal edge of the carb where 
the fuel reservoir attaches.<br>


<br>


Am I missing anything else here? <br>


<br>


Thanks <br>


Creig Houghtaling<br>


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