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Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some more..

To: Alex&Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>, 'Frank Fisher' <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>, 'healeys' <Healeys@autox.team.net>, 'Triumphs' <Triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some more..
From: David Porter <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 14:51:08 -0600
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This raises an interesting point in my mind. "followers" is what they 
should do, being in contact with the cam at all times. So it follows 
(sorry) that if they are not, then damage like pictured previously is 
more apt to occur. This engine was also equipped with roller rockers, 
aftermarket push rods as well. I think some serious measurements are in 
order...
DaveP

On 8/4/2015 2:00 PM, Alex&Janet Thomson wrote:
>
> If I can see correctly, it is the bottom of the tappet (or lifter, or 
> mushroom follower) that is pitted and that is in contact with the 
> camshaft all of the time. I have my own identical (and worse) examples 
> from our TR6.
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Frank Fisher
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:10 PM
> *To:* David Porter; healeys; Triumphs; Triumphs List
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some more..
>
> do i see pitting around the top of the tappet also?
>
> if so that's kinda strange as it has no contact with anything.
>
> frank
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*David Porter <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
> *To:* healeys <Healeys@autox.team.net>; Triumphs 
> <Triumphs@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 3, 2015 8:07 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some more..
>
> oops.. wrong picture.. let's try this one..
>
> On 8/3/2015 8:26 AM, David Porter wrote:
>
>     Well,
>      Here's a customers TR4 lifter after less than 2 years using
>     synthetic oil. One of them had the bottom broken out! These were
>     new as was the cam, which is also ruined.. just saying..
>     DaveP
>
>
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    This raises an interesting point in my mind. "followers" is what
    they should do, being in contact with the cam at all times. So it
    follows (sorry) that if they are not, then damage like pictured
    previously is more apt to occur. This engine was also equipped with
    roller rockers, aftermarket push rods as well. I think some serious
    measurements are in order... <br>
    DaveP<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/4/2015 2:00 PM, Alex&amp;Janet
      Thomson wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">If
            I can see correctly, it is the bottom of the tappet (or
            lifter, or mushroom follower) that is pitted and that is in
            contact with the camshaft all of the time. I have my own
            identical (and worse) examples from our TR6.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Alex
            Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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                Triumphs [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
 <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Frank Fisher<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:10 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> David Porter; healeys; Triumphs; Triumphs
                List<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some
                more..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">do
                i see pitting around the top of the tappet 
also?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">if
                so that's kinda strange as it has no contact with
                anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    David Porter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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                    <b>To:</b> healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;Healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>;
                    Triumphs <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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                    <b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 3, 2015 8:07 AM<br>
                    <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438710529674_12701">Subject:</b>
                    Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some more..</span><span
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                        wrong picture.. let's try this 
one..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
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                          8/3/2015 8:26 AM, David Porter 
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                          <br>
                           Here's a customers TR4 lifter after less than
                          2 years using synthetic oil. One of them had
                          the bottom broken out! These were new as was
                          the cam, which is also ruined.. just saying..
                          <br>
                          DaveP <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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