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Thanks, Randall and Dave for the quick replies. Sorry for the confusion. =
When I wrote =E2=80=9Cwheel=E2=80=9D I meant the hub and brake assembly. =
The wheel is definitely off the car!
With everything else still attached, the hole on the top of the vertical =
link is a good 1-2 inches forward of the pin on the ball joint. Damage =
is a possibility, as I had to get the car from from the base of the =
driveway to the garage with everything separated.=20
I=E2=80=99m not sure what kind of movement I should and should not be =
seeing on the VL. With the VL and ball joint disconnected, the hub moves =
out and slightly forward, in one smooth motion. It doesn=E2=80=99t seem =
to me that the trunnion is binding up in either direction. My TR is late =
enough that it has the later vertical link ball joint assembly. The =
previous owner was pretty savvy, but just in case, how do I tell if I =
have the right trunnion and if it=E2=80=99s on the right way?
Please note I=E2=80=99ve not tried to improve alignment with the =
steering wheel. Perhaps that should be my next step.
Thanks again for your help. I=E2=80=99m a bit desperate to get the car =
safely out of the garage under its own power, as my lease ends in two =
weeks!
-- Jeff
> On Jan 4, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>> I tried using a jack under the spring pan, but the alignment=20
>> between the ball joint and vertical link is quite a bit off=20
>> and requires a lot of tugging on the wheel
>=20
> You lost me here. Are you trying to do this with the road wheel =
installed? Or are you tugging on the steering wheel? If the
> steering wheel is involved, my suggestion would be to disconnect the =
tie rod from the steering arm, so you don't have to deal with
> the VL having to turn as it moves into position.
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>> to get it to come=20
>> even somewhat close fitting. In the end, the upper wishbone=20
>> moves up before I'm able to force the link into the ball joint.
>=20
> So if I understand this; you have the ball joint assembled to the =
upper wishbones (aka A-arms), and the pin of the ball joint does
> not line up with the hole in the vertical link. Correct? =20
>=20
> At this point, with either a jack or the rebound stop supporting the =
spring pan, the vertical link should be free to pivot towards
> and away from the shock tower, so you should be able to just hold it =
lined up in that axis. If the VL won't pivot on the trunnion,
> then there is something wrong with the trunnion (like perhaps the end =
plates are too tight or the pin is bent).
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> And it should be held in-line in the fore-aft direction, by the lower =
A-arms and trunnion. If you have a significant fore-aft
> misalignment, then something is bent or the wrong trunnion is =
installed. Early TR4 with the ball joint that has two pins (one into
> the VL, the other into the A-arms) take the zero-degree trunnion; =
while later cars with the two bolts to hold the ball joint to the
> A-arms take the 3-degree trunnion. The 3 degree trunnions are also =
"handed"; so you can have the wrong one of those as well. =20
>=20
> Randall
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Thanks, Randall and Dave for the quick replies. Sorry for the =
confusion. When I wrote =E2=80=9Cwheel=E2=80=9D I meant the hub and =
brake assembly. The wheel is definitely off the car!<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">With everything else still attached, =
the hole on the top of the vertical link is a good 1-2 inches forward of =
the pin on the ball joint. Damage is a possibility, as I had to get the =
car from from the base of the driveway to the garage with everything =
separated. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m not sure what kind of movement I should and =
should not be seeing on the VL. With the VL and ball joint disconnected, =
the hub moves out and slightly forward, in one smooth motion. It =
doesn=E2=80=99t seem to me that the trunnion is binding up in either =
direction. My TR is late enough that it has the later vertical link ball =
joint assembly. The previous owner was pretty savvy, but just in case, =
how do I tell if I have the right trunnion and if it=E2=80=99s on the =
right way?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Please note I=E2=80=99ve not tried to improve alignment with =
the steering wheel. Perhaps that should be my next step.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks again for your =
help. I=E2=80=99m a bit desperate to get the car safely out of the =
garage under its own power, as my lease ends in two weeks!<br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jan 4, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Randall <<a =
href=3D"mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com"; class=3D"">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>>=
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">I tried using a jack =
under the spring pan, but the alignment <br class=3D"">between the ball =
joint and vertical link is quite a bit off <br class=3D"">and requires a =
lot of tugging on the wheel<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">You =
lost me here. Are you trying to do this with the road wheel =
installed? Or are you tugging on the steering wheel? If =
the<br class=3D"">steering wheel is involved, my suggestion would be to =
disconnect the tie rod from the steering arm, so you don't have to deal =
with<br class=3D"">the VL having to turn as it moves into position.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">to get it =
to come <br class=3D"">even somewhat close fitting. In the end, the =
upper wishbone <br class=3D"">moves up before I'm able to force the link =
into the ball joint.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">So if I =
understand this; you have the ball joint assembled to the upper =
wishbones (aka A-arms), and the pin of the ball joint does<br =
class=3D"">not line up with the hole in the vertical link. =
Correct? <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">At this point, with =
either a jack or the rebound stop supporting the spring pan, the =
vertical link should be free to pivot towards<br class=3D"">and away =
from the shock tower, so you should be able to just hold it lined up in =
that axis. If the VL won't pivot on the trunnion,<br class=3D"">then=
there is something wrong with the trunnion (like perhaps the end plates =
are too tight or the pin is bent).<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">And it =
should be held in-line in the fore-aft direction, by the lower A-arms =
and trunnion. If you have a significant fore-aft<br =
class=3D"">misalignment, then something is bent or the wrong trunnion is =
installed. Early TR4 with the ball joint that has two pins (one =
into<br class=3D"">the VL, the other into the A-arms) take the =
zero-degree trunnion; while later cars with the two bolts to hold the =
ball joint to the<br class=3D"">A-arms take the 3-degree trunnion. =
The 3 degree trunnions are also "handed"; so you can have the =
wrong one of those as well. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Randall<br=
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""></div></body></html>=
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