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Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem?

To: Greg Gelhar <greg@gelhar.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem?
From: Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:19:10 -0600
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I did check the voltage at the yellow purple wire directly on the  
solenoid (you have to remove the plastic cap to get to that wire) and  
that's when it "clogs up".  The voltage reads in the hundredths of  
voltages instead of 12.75. I guess I could have two bad solenoids but  
the fact that they work with a direct hookup to a battery that has  
less voltage than the one in the car is a puzzle. I'm thinking there  
is a grounding issue. I guess the grounding could be affected over  
time by corrosion or dirt but I can't seem to find where that problem  
is if it's that.

Thanks
Bud

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project)
71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle)
Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)







On Oct 3, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Greg Gelhar wrote:

> Bud, can you measure the voltage at the solenoid connection with the  
> solenoid in the circuit? It is possible to measure the correct  
> voltage at the disconnected wire because the meter does not load the  
> circuit down. If, with the solenoid in the circuit, you do not see  
> the correct voltage, then there is a high resistance connection  
> somewhere to the solenoid.
>
>
> Greg G.
> Osseo,MN
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Rolofson" <levilevi@comcast.net 
> >
> To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:49 AM
> Subject: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem?
>
>
>> The OD on my TR6 stopped working so I did the trouble shooting  
>> process
>> in Dan Master's electrical manual and found I have voltage all  
>> through
>> the circuit all the way to the bullet that connects the (yellow with
>> purple stripe) wire to the solenoid. The voltage can be switched on
>> and off with the OD selector switch on the column so everything works
>> up to the point where it connects to the solenoid. But the solenoid
>> doesn't engage.
>>
>> So the solenoid is bad right? What has me stumped is that the  
>> solenoid
>> will operate if I hook it directly to an extra battery that I have.
>> Why would it work with 12 volts directly but not 12 volts through the
>> circuit? I even swapped out another solenoid from another A type OD
>> and that one does exactly the same thing. Works with a direct hookup
>> to a battery but not with the circuit. I checked to see if the
>> solenoid is grounded and it has continuity according to my meter.
>>
>> With the solenoid hooked to the system when I engage the OD switch  
>> the
>> voltage goes as far as the bullet but doesn't register at the
>> solenoid. It's as if the solenoid "clogs" the flow of the voltage.
>>
>> What could be causing the solenoids to work with a direct battery
>> (voltage measured at 12.11) but not with the circuit (voltage  
>> measured
>> at 12.75)?
>>
>> I'm stumped. How can both solenoids work in one situation and not the
>> other?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bud Rolofson

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