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Re: [TR] TR3 engines

To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com, rjones@wfeca.net, triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 engines
From: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:49:48 EDT
Yeah, Like Wot Randall Said.
 
However, I would emphasise Randall's point by saying that, unless your  
engine was built in about 1958 and hung around before going to the Morgan  
factory, it's almost certainly the later type you need.
 
To endorse Randall's comment on the gear: I had to change the gear on my  
gear-reduction starter because I have an early car (bomb starter) but I found 
 that it had been fitted with a late-type ring gear, and I didn't know this 
until  I had the gear reduction starter (with the gear for an early car) in 
my hand and  the bomb starter out. This meant there was no hope for an 
original type starter  to work for very long, unless I changed the ring gear or 
fitted a late-type gear  to the gear  reduction starter motor. I did the 
latter; it was easy and I  can say you will not regret changing to one of these 
starters.
 
In your position, and if I did not want to disassemble before ordering the  
starter, I'd order the late one, then change the gear in the unlikely event 
 it doesn't fit. For the very few extra $, you could even order the earlier 
 gear as well, just in case it's an early engine.
 
Sorry we can't be more specific but the changeover went by VIN and not  
engine number, so neither your engine number, nor your Morgan's VIN, gives us  
the info we need to give you a definitive answer.
 
Tim in Ontario, Canada; '57 TR3A
 
 
 
> My  1961 Morgan Plus 4 has a TR3 engine.  The engine number is 
>  8197.  Does
> anyone know which gear reduction starter it takes,  the early 
> TR3 one or the
> later one?

How many times has  the flywheel been changed ?

By 61, it almost certainly had the late  starter originally; but it's not at
all unusual to find that someone  converted at some point; intentionally or
not.  Back in the 70's,  everyone _knew_ "They're all the same".

So, as Bob wrote, I would  insist on checking which flywheel is installed.

BTW, the gear-drive  starters are the same except for the gear; and changing
the gear is not  that difficult.  So if you do get the wrong one, you may be
able to  buy the gear and swap it over.

-- Randall   


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