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Re: [TR] Fw: Hydrogen fuel.

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Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: Hydrogen fuel.
From: Greg Bengeult <bengeult@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:21:19 -0700
Dave1massey@cs.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/1/2008 2:16:51 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> ambritts@bellsouth.net writes: 
>   
>>> This is a growing area here in Florida. Better known as "Brown's Gas", its 
>>>       
>>> been around for years. A google search will shed more light. There is a 
>>> company in Clearwater that has a contract with the military to fit out 
>>> "Humvees". The attached sites lend some additional info. GE is working on 
>>> this as you will see from the site below. The military has used it in 
>>> different forms for years as well as industry. Just lately smaller units 
>>> have been constructed to fit cars, both diesel and gas. I have seen these 
>>> many times and know people who claim mileage improvements anywhere from 
>>> 10% to 40% depending on the unit and its construction. There are a few of 
>>> us here looking to build these for our daily drivers. After getting the 
>>> instructions, ($50) you can build the units for under $15. FWIW. So the 
>>> big question.............where has it been all these years?
>>>       
> On the same shelf as all the other snake oils.  Since you are googling Browns 
> Water look at the Wikipedia entry.  Specifically:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car
>
> Running a car on hydrogen presents one big problem: Where do you get the 
> hydrogen?  Most methods involve some other energy source either electric or 
> chemical.  There's no magic there other than the smoke and mirrors kind. 
>
> Dave   
>   
A more appropriate reference for this discussion would be
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_fuel_injection

The Brown's Gas injection process doesn't replace the normal fuel 
mixture as in the
water-fuelled car article, it merely adds free hydrogen to the fuel 
mixture.  This allows the
car to run a much leaner mixture under certain conditions (like idle or 
low load) with a
corresponding improvement in both fuel economy and emissions.  
Unfortunately for
the people who just fabricate their own unit, it takes extensive 
modifications to the
ECU's air/fuel mixture map to take full advantage of the system.

Greg
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