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Re: Sticking Starter Pinion?

To: MotoPsyche@aol.com, Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Sticking Starter Pinion?
From: Steven Newell <steven@newellboys.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:20:17 -0600
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Yeah, the starter I received as a replacement for my dead starter on my 
early TR4 also had a different shaped pinion. I called Moss and they 
said that's all they had, and it'd be okay. It got quieter after a few 
weeks and blew apart after maybe 6 months. Luckily it came apart as I 
was starting the car in the garage so no holes through the bellhousing. 
Still it was incredibly hard to fish all the bits out, especially a ring 
jammed in the flywheel.

IMO you should replace the pinion (with the gear teeth that run the 
entire length) with an original shaped pinion if you possibly can. I 
bought a spare starter recently on eBay with the right shape pinion 
gear. And somewhere in my garage I have the disassembled dead original 
starter -- with a correctly shaped pinion gear. If you can't find one 
and your original is unusable, let me know and I'll send my loose pinion 
gear your way.

Steven Newell
Littleton, CO
'62 TR4

MotoPsyche@aol.com wrote:

>Greetings from the garage,
> 
>After suffering the disintegration of my starter coming back from TRA (the  
>end cap unscrewed and bits shot around and through the bellhousing), I rebuilt 
> 
>the unit with parts from a beat-up starter purchased through E-bay.  You  can 
>be sure there is now a cotter pin installed through the end of the armature  
>shaft.  Let us pray...
> 
>My problem is that, when I operate the starter, it turns the flywheel until  
>the engine catches, then I get a horrific grinding noise from the starter. I  
>believe the pinion is stuck against the flywheel rather than releasing after 
>the  motor starts.
> 
>The replacement pinion gear I acquired is nonstandard, but it would seem ok  
>to use.  The gear teeth run the length of the replacement pinion, rather  than 
>halfway as with the stock pinion.
> 
>What should I be looking for to unstick the pinion gear?  The parts  are 
>clean and dry, and they seem to move easily on the armature shaft.   Clues?
> 
>Pix of the starter parts and pinion gears can be seen at:  
>_http://www.cardomain.com/id/motopsyche_ 
>(http://www.cardomain.com/id/motopsyche) .   You'll 
>readily notice the worn teeth from the damaged pinion gear.
> 
>Thanks for your help.
> 
>Bill Stagg
>1961 TR3A
>
-- 
Steven Newell
Littleton, CO





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