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Re: Vacuum and timing

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Subject: Re: Vacuum and timing
From: "Jim Muller" <jimmuller@pop.mail.rcn.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:35:59 -0500
Organization: Southern Rail
Scott Tilton asks:
> Why would I want some advance at a partially open throttle  and none at wide
> open throttle?

This is the basic question of "Why vacuum advance at all?"  After all, if 
the timing depended not at all on the level of vacuum, you could just 
advance the timing to its supposedly-ideal position and that would be the 
end of it.

The reason timing depends on vacuum is this.  The more you open the 
throttle, the greater the density of the air entering the cylinders.  This 
higher density causes the flame front to spread faster.  Now, you normally 
want maximum power at wide-open throttle, right?  (Duh, of course!)  And 
open throttle generally means the minimum vacuum, higher air density.  So 
you set the non-vacuum-influenced timing to be as early as your engine can 
handle.  The trouble with this as a general operating point is that when you 
close the throttle the air density goes down, so the flame velocity 
decreases, which means you could actually tolerate a bit more advance.  Most 
of your running is done at part-throttle anyway, so with no vacuum input 
you'd spend most of your driving with the timing later than ideal for those 
particular engine conditions.  The solution is a vacuum module that advances 
the timing when the vacuum goes up, just enough to compensate for the lower 
air density.  Or conversely, it retards the timing when the vacuum goes 
down, just enough to compensate for the higher density.  This lets you set 
the no-vacuum timing for best open-throttle power, and also gives you more 
power, better throttle response, and higher gas mileage at part-throttle.  
The smaller, cheaper cars might even dispense with the vacuum advance 
completely on the grounds that with a light car, you can tolerate slightly 
retarded timing most of the time and still optimize the timing for full 
throttle.

Hope this answers your question.  Perhaps I misread your note.  If so, sorry 
to waste the bandwidth.

Jim Muller
jimmuller@pop.rcn.com
'80 Spitfire (Percy)
'70 GT6+ (Nigel)

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