This among others is probably the reason he has yet to sell
his GT6.
I realize M.P. may have no other venue to vent his frustrations
with N.A. But this is not the place.
M.D.P..... don't lower yourself to his level by responding.
Simply ignore them. After all they are simply crying for attention.
I understand your point.... but life has a way of dealing with
the transparencies people try to present.
...all in good time ... all is revealed.
Paul Tegler ptegler@gouldfo.com www.teglerizer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D. Porter" <mporter@zianet.com>
To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 8:43 AM
Subject: Nathan Aldous
Sorry, folks, but there's a bit of information on this twit which must
be transmitted. I've been, as have others, trying to make some sense of,
and to come to terms with, the idiocy which has lately occupied the
list, with regard to nationalities other the populace of the good `ol US
of A.
One of the particularly offensive messages in that series of offensive
messages was from one Nathan Aldous. Mr. Aldous described himself, and
his attitudes, as follows, in a reply to a message of mine which I sent
him privately and he chose to place on the list:
"My statements were inflammatory, generalized, and mostly just to get
some
people to answer and defend their beliefs. I was hoping for somebody to
say,"Well you Americans are pushy assholes". Or whatever.
And yes one would probably have to meet every person in that nation to
make judgemnt of the people. But alas, it doesnt happen that way.
People
make judgements, usually from first impressions or what has been told by
our parents/grandparents. Maybe this is wrong but it is human nature.
I read an email, something popped in my mind and I spoke on it. Get
over
it.
"I am fully aware that this list is to talk about Triumphs and there are
other avenues for discussions such as this but damn it has been
dreadfully
boring and this thread on snaps for softtops is been talked to death
soooo
much it was driving me nuts. Lets talk about engines, or suspensions or
something.
"As for my comments on the wars. I guess I get some of that from my PRO
IRA
Irish Grandpa who survided D-Day, My Father and Step Father who fought
in
Vietnam and my hippie Mother. I honestly apologize if I offended any
one
out there who fought in one of these wars. Front line war is nothing
like
what I experienced in the Marines in IRAQ straffing hundreds of jr
terrorists in my gunship. Killing is killing I guess.
"As for my use of language, I was just talking in terms that regular ol
people can understand. I don't need big words to bring across my
opinions.
People have their own opinions of Americans and what I say here has no
relevance to what they think we are really like. Just easy rhetoric.
"Ashamed? Nah. Embarass my country? hardly. What's shameful and
embarassing is watching the pissing match on tv about these two assholes
spending millions of tax payers dollars whining about who gets dibbs on
the
treehouse.
"You should just unpucker your ass and realize that not everyone has the
same opinions as you. This is a free world and America is a free
country,
if you don't like what I have to say, hit the delete key.
"All I have left to say is what I heard a Brit from the coalition forces
say
to me in a mess tent turned desert cantina right before I kicked the
livin
shit out of him and his 2 buddies, "BUGGER OFF."
Mr. Aldous is a liar and a stupid one, to boot. He has never served in
the military, nor did he serve in the Gulf War. The following is a
message I sent him early this morning:
==================================================================================
Nathan, I don't want to embarrass you further, but you have made some
considerably outlandish claims for yourself on the Triumphs list,
especially about your war record. You are not a Gulf War veteran, and
the closest you've ever been to a gunship is a video game....
One of the things I like least in life is a phony war hero. I have lived
my life with a man who was, indeed, a war hero, and never took the title
to heart, my father. He flew countless missions in WWII over much of the
European theater, bailed out of a burning B-24 in June, 1944, on fire,
spent nine months in a German prison camp, his ankle broken and his face
badly burned. He became a career military officer. I am an Army veteran
(1967-1970), as was my little brother (1983-1986).
You are a 1991 graduate of Coral Shores High School, in Tavernier,
Florida. You could not have served as a gunship gunner in the Gulf War.
You have two civil actions, judgments indeterminate, involving you, when
you were a student in Gainesville at UFL. One was for back rent/eviction
and the other for vehicular negligence. You currently work for Centex
Corporation (from the IP block address of your email).
Now, you are going to retract your outlandish statements about yourself,
and, hopefully, about your opinions of the citizens of the rest of the
world, on the list, in the next day, or I am going to do it for you.
As they say in Florida, son, fish, or cut bait.
It took a little digging, but here's the proof:
http://www.monroe.k12.fl.us/csh/Alumni/alumni.htm
This alumni page provides a link to the same email address as you use on
the
list.
Cheers, Nathan. `Fess up.
==================================================================================
This man is a fraud. He has lied about himself in furtherance of his own
petty views. I sent this message to him early this morning. He has had
ample time to read it and respond, and yet, he has not replied to the
list, made his apologies, and gotten on with it.
This is an example of one of the great problems with email and the
internet. Fools can invade the best-intentioned of efforts, such as this
list.
I am disheartened by such people. They will come and go on dedicated
lists such as this. The kind and helpful people, hopefully, will remain
for the benefit of us all.
Cheers.
--
Michael D. Porter
Roswell, NM
[mailto: mporter@zianet.com]
`70 GT6+ (being refurbished, slowly)
`71 GT6 Mk. III (organ donor)
`72 GT6 Mk. III (daily driver)
`64 TR4 (awaiting intensive care)
`80 TR7 (3.8 liter Buick-powered)
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