Listers, just to make sure I was not off base, "NO" Va. emission inspection
required on diesels, none in the state of Virginia, I just left the
inspection center, P.S. looked at 3 18 wheelers and 2 U.S. made autos, 1
foreign, and 1 U.S. truck, "NO" catalytic converters on any of them. "FT"
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Ryner <pryner@ij.net>
To: Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>; Michael D. Porter <mporter@zianet.com>;
Philip E. Barnes <peb3@cornell.edu>
Cc: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: oil note
>
> I humbly apologize for the fat finger. LBC, not LBG, sure to get some
heat
> over this!
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Pete Ryner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 7:51 PM
> To: Fred Thomas; Michael D. Porter; Philip E. Barnes@pop.mindspring.com
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: oil note
>
>
> I too thought that diesel engines would be exempt from state emission
> inspections, but I found out differently when I bought my Dodge with a
> diesel engine. It required an inspection in Virginia and also in Florida
> (my current residence). As you pointed out, the ash content is one of the
> main differences in diesel engine oil. I don't know the consequences are
if
> you use diesel oil in an gas engine, but using oil designed for a diesel
> engine will ruin the engine and negate the warranty! BTW, oil designed
for
> diesel engines is about the same cost, so why even bother? I've always
used
> Castrol in my LBGs with outstanding results! No sludge build-up,
negligible
> wear, great performance both on daily drivers and "special occasion"
> drivers. I change every 3000k or 6 months and have never had an oil
> problem.
> Pete
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Fred Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 5:37 PM
> To: Michael D. Porter; Philip E. Barnes@pop.mindspring.com
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: oil note
>
>
> Michael, diesel engines are exempt from most all state emmission
> inspections, and which large H.D. trucks or cars (diesel) have a cat.
> converter.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael D. Porter <mporter@zianet.com>
> To: Philip E. Barnes <peb3@cornell.edu>
> Cc: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 2:24 PM
> Subject: Re: oil note
>
>
> >
> > "Philip E. Barnes" wrote:
> >
> >
> > > use. The response was to use a "heavy-duty" oil intended for diesels.
> The
> > > reasoning was these oils have more additives for anti-oxidation and
> > > anti-corrosion than passenger car oils. The additives apparently have
a
> > > detrimental effect on catalytic converters, so have been reduced or
> > > eliminated in "modern" oils. Made sense to me. Perhaps I'll go down to
> the
> > > local Kenworth dealer for my next oil change.
> >
> > Curious... since every heavy-duty on-road diesel engine today is
> > equipped with a catalytic converter to meet emissions standards. I
> > suspect that oil formulations for diesel engines have changed, as well.
> > For what it's worth, we put Mobil Delvac 1200 in all engines, regardless
> > of make, except for natural gas engines which require a lower ash
> > content. Delvac 1200 is a 100% synthetic 15W-40, I believe. And we
> > recommend oil changes every 6K miles....
> >
> > If you are looking for diesel engine oil with a pre-catalyst additive
> > package, look for an oil which only meets CC or CD specs. Those are
> > diesel standards which go back to the early `80s. They may simply not be
> > available, though.
> >
> > Newest spec oils (up to CH-4 according to the Lubrizol site I use
> > frequently) probably resemble an additive package more like current
> > light automotive oils, so if you don't specify an older spec oil at that
> > Kenworth dealer, you may get a fancy, quite expensive version of
> > something you can buy at Pep Boys.
> >
> > Have look at this site. It will probably explain a _great deal_ more
> > than the lubrication expert in Car & Driver:
> >
> >
>
http://www.lubrizol.com/referencelibrary/readyreference/6-OilClasses/Cclass.
> htm
> >
> > It's fairly apparent from that page that classes CA through CE are now
> > obsolete. CF through CH-4 are likely oils suitable for use with
> > catalytic converters, since the ratings for each are referenced back to
> > properties of now-obsolete classes.
> >
> > I highly recommend the Lubrizol site to everyone--there's a wealth of
> > information there, freely available, on anything and everything having
> > to do with lubrication.
> >
> > Cheers, Phil.
>
>
>
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