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Re: A new world? [Long, but important.]

To: mjb@cs.utah.edu, triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: A new world? [Long, but important.]
From: TRIPHSTEVE@aol.com
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:24:40 EDT
Mark-


Thanks for all you do.

Check in the mail tomorrow.


Steve Thornton
Bowling Green, KY




In a message dated 99-10-17 14:35:38 EDT, mjb@cs.utah.edu writes:

<< 
 Last week, many of the folks here in the U.S. of A observed what we call
 Columbus Day.  It comemmerates the voyage of Christopher Columbus and his
 "discovery" of the New World.  Columbus took off for unknown territory in
 search of new trade routes, thinking he'd find one thing, and found another.
 And it is getting to the point where I may do a similar thing with Team.Net,
 taking off in an unknown direction, without knowing how it will turn out.
 
 The current situation is that the 80 or so Team.Net lists [1], their roughly
 14,000 subscribers, the www.team.net web pages, the ftp.team.net FTP archives
 are all handled by an old computer tucked off in the corner of the machine 
room
 here in the Department of Computer Science at the University of Utah.  And 
doing
 the care and feeding of that server is me, just one person.
 
 ***  What I would like to do:
 
  - Replace the server with at least one new box.  Perhaps split off the web
    and ftp from the mailer machine, so having one service blow up the server
    doesn't topple the others.
 
    Why?  The current hardware is sort of still working.  You got this 
message,
    didn't you?  One of the disks that was donated during my last plea is 
making
    WAY too much noise, and will likely kiss the turf in the very near future.
    This stuff doesn't last forever.  I've actually shuffled stuff around, if 
the
    disk does fail soon, there should be minimal loss of service.
 
 
  - Divorce the Team.Net box from the University.  Rather than keeping it
    hanging off some U of U wire, get sufficient bandwidth at home or the shop
    or somewhere to support the traffic loads for the foreseeable future.
 
    Why?  Basically, to keep some sort of equipment replacement fund on hand,
    I'd like to find some way of generating a modest bit of income from all 
this
    work.  And while it would be nice if all of the 14,000 subscribers 
mentioned
    above would send me, say, 7.95 every year to cover each of their list
    subscriptions, that is unlikely to happen.  So I'm thinking of commercial
    sponsorships, perhaps some advertising, maybe a classified cars and parts
    service for a modest fee, whatever.  But doing anything like that using
    University resources is not the way to go.
 
 ***  What it will take:
 
  - Money.  Basically enough funding to purchase the required hardware, to 
cover
    the installation fees of a network line of some sort set up somewhere, and
    enough to cover several months of the ongoing line charges and such, while
    I ponder various income schemes.  Looking for those new trade routes, so 
to
    speak.
 
  - Time.  I'll provide this.
 
 
 ***  What I request of you:
 
  -  Contribute money.  You *knew* this was coming, didn't you?  Send a check,
     made payable to Fat Chance Garage, to this address:
 
     Fat Chance Garage
     PO Box 58333
     Salt Lake City, Utah 84158
 
 Simple, eh?  Now, the few times over the last decade or so I've done this,
 I've gotten many offers from folks willing to throw in some unused, surplus
 hardware of various types.  For example, the failing disk I mention above.
 In truth, I'd rather go out and purchase new stuff, which comes with a 
warranty
 and someone I can pepper with complaints if need be.  I think that is the 
best
 route in the long run.
 
 Also, for those many list folks who are not in the US of A, don't worry about
 it.  Usually, a check from out of the country costs me more in service 
charges,
 currency conversion and hassle than it is worth.  If a batch of folks based 
in,
 say, England or Australia or Canada or Germany or wherever got together and 
sent
 in one large bank check payable in US Dollars, that would be different!
 
 If you've recently contributed, or don't feel like you are getting anything
 out of these lists[2], or are just plain old broke, don't worry about it.  
I'll
 continue to provide what I can; payment for services rendered is on a 
strictly
 voluntary basis.  Which in some cases is likely a shame, as I bet there are
 many on these lists who make use of them for personal financial gain in one
 form or another, and are quite willing to continue doing so with no regard 
for
 the efforts I provide enabling them to do so.  The flip side of that, though,
 is that there are folks with commercial interests directly related to the
 areas of list interests who always come through with contributions when I 
ask.
 Cool.
 
 So, let's see what we can do to improve the services I provide.  If I gather
 in a few hundred dollars, you probably won't notice anything different.  A 
few
 thousand, and there could be some screamin' new hardware behind it all.  And
 if a hundred thousand or so (Less than $8 per subscription!) I'd quit my day
 job and actually be able to work full time as the Team.Net guy, and you might
 get a decent level of customer service out of me, instead of the current
 situation of more than likely no reply at all.  Hmmm, would that be my dream,
 or an insufferable nightmare?
 
 
 So, if you can assist, great, there's a few thousand others around the world
 besides me who would appreciate it.  If not, I hope that I can still provide
 you with something useful in your life through the Team.Net services.
 
 Thanks,
 mjb.
 
 

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