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TR-6 Adding PI - the full story LONG

To: tr6@mail.icongrp.com
Subject: TR-6 Adding PI - the full story LONG
From: Peter.Hore@dhs.vic.gov.au
Date: Fri, 8 May 98 17:21:40 +1000
Cc: triumphs@Autox.Team.Net
Don

Your question 

>I know that the euro-spec TR-6's had fuel injection and developed 40-50hp 
>more then the NA carbed versions.  Was the fuel injection the only reason 
>for the hp difference or were there other differences. (ie a different  
>camshaft) 


The following is an extract from the March 1991 edition of the magazine of 
the Triumph Car Club of Victoria (Australia) - written by "PI Pete". These 
should explain all the engine differences. I am not aware of any drivetrain 
differences. 

Peter H

73/74 TR6 

*******************


For those wishing to convert a US TR6 to a real (PI) one, here are some 
pointers which may help. Essentially, the vehicles differ in five main 
areas:
1) Camshafts
2) Cylinder Heads
3) Manifolds and injection equipment
4) Ignition System
5) Exhaust System.

1 Camshafts
A number of different camshafts were used during the production of the 
2000/2500 motors. The following table lists some of the more common 
varieties plus a couple of locally available after market units.

PART#   APPLICATION          TIMING          VALVE LIFT      IDENTIFICATION

?       Carburettor          24-64/64-24     0.345"
311 399 Carburettor (LATE)   18-58/58-18     0.360"          3 rings
307 689 TR5/Early TR6(150BHP)35-65/65-35     0.375"          2 Rings
311 399 Late TR6 PI (124BHP) 18-58/58-18     0.360"          3 Rings
308 778 EarlyPI Sedan 132BHP 25-65/65-25     0.345"          Groove

154C    Wade Road Cam        31-70/70-31     0.398"
5569    ACE Road Cam         30-70/70-30     0.402"

It is possible to simply bolt PI equipment onto an ex carb motor with a 
considerable amount of success as the carb cams are usually similar to the 
late TR6 Sedan PI cams. Power output will be in the range of 120 135 BHP 
depending on the other components used.

If you want 150 BHP or so then you'll have to use camshaft 307689 or an 
equivalent regrind if you can find one. As an alternative you could use one 
of the aftermarket road cams which will give similar performance. An 
advantage with the two aftermarket cams listed is that they exhibit 
smoother idle characteristics as a result of the smaller amount of valve 
overlap than the original TR5 camshaft.

Production cams are identified by a part no. engraved on the shaft (not the 
one cast into it) and/or by a number of grooves/rings between the timing 
gear mounting face and the keeper plate groove. Avoid cams with no 
identification rings/grooves as these will more than likely be early 2000 
cams with very tame timing.

2 Cylinder Heads
There are 4 things to look out for here :

1)compression ratio
2)intake port spacing
3)Valve size
4)Valve spring set-up

All PI heads use a compression ratio of 9.5:1 whereas most carb heads use a 
8.5:1 (some US heads use even lower).

Some of the early US TR6 heads employed different spacing of the intake 
ports and the PI manifolds will not line up with these.

If port spacing is OK you can have your head machined to lift the 
compression ratio to 9.5:1 (You need to take something like 0.060" off on a 
8.5:1 head).

Another area to watch is valve size. Earlier heads tended to have larger 
valves. The hottest production set-up uses a 1.44" intake and a 1.28" 
exhaust valve.

Finally make sure your head uses twin valve springs as you may experience 
valve bounce with singles at high speeds (which the PI vehicles can more 
readily achieve).

If you run an alternative cam, make sure that you have enough lift 
available with the spring set-up used.

If all this seems a bit much you should be able to pick up a head off an 
early (pre 1973) PI sedan which will do the job perfectly.

3 Manifold and Injection Equipment
Metering units, pumps, filters etc. can usually be located off another 
model. The metering unit for the late model TR6 PI is the same as the late 
model sedans.

The early TR6 metering unit employs different calibration springs to all 
other models. However, it should be possible to adjust any metering unit to 
give reasonable fuel consumption with best performance.

Intake manifolds varied slightly between models. Late model TR6's and 
sedans use manifolds that are not appropriate if you want lS0 BHP or more.

The early manifolds were used on TR5s, early TR6s, Mk I PI & early Mk II 
sedans. The early manifolds have fully circular ports and far better gas 
flow characteristics.

If you only want 130BHP or so then the late model manifolds will do.

Another area to watch is the throttle linkage assemblies. Only the linkages 
as used on the original TR5/early TR6s or Mk I sedans will bolt straight 
onto your TR6. The problem with the Mk II sedan linkages (early intake 
manifolds only) is that they are slightly bulkier and foul on the exhaust 
manifold (only the twin pipe variety).

All is not lost as there is a simple tweak to make the Mk II sedan linkages 
work. You have to use spacers to mount the linkages an extra 1/4" or so off 
the manifolds. With a bit of careful adjustment and light grinding of the 
linkage where they foul, the set-up can be made to work. This is convenient 
as Mk II linkages are easier to get hold of.

The linkages an the late model manifolds are very simple and do not pose 
any problems.

4 Ignition System In order to get maximum performance from the set-up, you 
will find it nessarv to alter the distributor advance characteristics.

The ideal set-up is to try and get hold of an original early TR6 
distributor (Lucas part # 41219). You may even be able to get Lucas to 
rebuild your unit to this spec.

Alternatively you could use an early 2000 sedan distributor as the curve is 
very close to that of the 41219. (Lucas part # 41543 or 41582)


If you are building a TR6 to the late PI spec then you could use the late 
PI sedan distributor (Lucas part #41502).

You will find that you will have to use your original distributor body as 
the sedan distributors do not have a mechanical tacho drive.

5 Exhaust System

Two types of system were employed. Single and twin pipe.

For maximum performance you need the twin pipe exhaust manifold set-up (or 
even better   extractors). The single pipe set-up will yield a system very 
similar to the PI sedan.



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