EPaul21988@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> Bob, is this for Britain, USA or all? I know that I'm not a member of
> the TR, either US or GB, and many others aren't either.
>
> Even 50% higher wouldn't approach the number of TR2/3/3A cars that I'm
> sure still exist in the USA.
>
> If I owned one of the 215 TR3 cars still in existence, it would be worth
> much more than what it is now.
> --
> George Richardson
> >>
>
> George;
> This is simply the number of cars currently registered with that particular
> club. Most of the membership is in England, so most of the cars are there
> also. I am sure you are correct that membership in the TR Register, the
> English club, in the US is certainly very low, but most of the cars were
> shipped here.
>
> This is just one small piece of information about how many cars are KNOWN to
> be around. It is certainly nowhere near to a total number of cars in
> existance, but the number is useful is making estimates of the total.
>
> Piggot also mentioned that in the entire history of the TR Register (28
> years), around 3,500 different sidecurtain cars have been registered. UK
> sales of sidecurtain cars are reported as around 6,000 total. If the cars
> registered with the TR Register are all in the UK then 40% of the cars ever
> sold in the UK are presumable still around ! Even if you guess that 25% of
> the membership is out of the UK, that's still a 30% survival rate in the UK.
> That's quite a large figure I'd say, but remember also that using this
> figure (3,500 total different cars ever registered) we are assuming that ALL
> of the cars surviving in the UK have been registered at one time or another
> with this club. This is almost certainly not the case, some UK sidecurtain
> cars surely have never been registered with the club. Therefore the survival
> estimate cannot be LOWER, but may be HIGHER.
>
> This is just one way to try to get an estimate. An estimate is a guess. The
> more facts you have upon which to base an estimate, the better the estimate
> is. It is a fact that 3,500 different sidecurtain cars have been registered
> with the TR Register. It is also a fact that only 6,000 sidecurtain cars
> were sold in the UK. The rest is guesswork and simple math. Is the estimate
> correct ? Estimates are not really correct or incorrect, they are educated
> guesses, some are better than others. It is possible to actually compute the
> range of error + or - which tells you how good your guess is.
>
> If you assume for a moment that a 30% survival rate is reasonable for the UK
> and that the survival rate is the same in the US then we would estimate about
> 30% of the total production run of 83,500 sidecurtain cars are still around
> which is approximately 25,000 TR 2/3/3A/3Bs. With around 90% of the total
> production run shipped to the US we would guess that 90% of the 25,000
> remaining cars are surviving in the US now ,which is 22,500 total sidecurtain
> cars .
>
> In the case of the TR 3 there were around 13,300 produced, 30% survival
> estimate = approximately 4,000 TR3s left 90% in the US = 3,600 TR3s estimated
> survived in the US.
>
> Now to search for other facts which might modify these estimates, such as:
> Number of sidecurtain cars registered with:
> The Triumph Register of America
> The Vintage Triumph Register
> Moss Motors
> The Roadster Factory
> any other ideas ??
>
> Yes, these are estimates. Correct, they are not accurate. They are guesses
> based on a very few facts and a lot of assumptions, but they are better than
> wild off the top of the head guesses and it's all for fun.
>
> This is quite long if there is little interest I will take it off the list in
> the future, so please let me know.
>
> Bob Paul
> Corrales NM
> TS71101L
> TS45738L O
> TS7280L
> (This means that I own .01246789% of the surviving sidecurtain cars , WOW!!)
Bob, I was just looking for clarification. I, for one find any
information on how many Triumphs (of any type) are still around to be of
great interest.
--
George Richardson
'57 TR3, TS15559L
(getting ready to paint - and now on the web!)
http://www.merlingroupinc.com/tr3.htm
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