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Re: 63 spit top

To: Peter Ficklin <pficklin@qnis.net>
Subject: Re: 63 spit top
From: Odd Hedberg <odd@triumphclub.se>
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:45:41 +0200
Cc: Triumphs List <triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>
References: <343ECBD0.7E0A1C35@lightspeed.net> <343F38C6.6732@triumphclub.se> <3441BDD6.5F9B@qnis.net>
Peter,
I don't know what level of proof Your government agency need to 
change the Year on a cars identity. Over here on the east side of 
the Atlantic it's usually OK with the data on the BMIHT Production
Record Certificate. (On the other hand it's not that much of an
issue what Year a specific automobile have been assigned... Mostly
it's just a correction the really keen and interested among us would
bother with... ;-)) The certificate can be purchased from BMIHT 
Archive Dept in Gaydon. I'm not really sure about the current cost
since I bought mine so many years ago... And it's the Commission 
Number that determine what spare parts You need if there has been a
change during the production run of Your particular Mark.

(But it's nice to have the Certificate. Nowdays they're even worth
framing...)

"Where do I find this sort of info out? You ask... Well, I've gathered 
bits of it ever since I bought my Spit way back in the seventies. The
Comm No / Year change info was something we once needed in the Club 
to administrate the insurance scheme we've got going. This to be able
to determine who could, and who could not, be awarded such an insurance.
Becoming eligible for one was rolled forward one Year at a time at 
New Year and was determined by manufacturing date. That's Why, and 
How? It's possible to find it in Gaydon if one work hard enough going 
through their records. It's as simple as that. Nowdays virtually all 
the Triumphs in Sweden have the age and are eligible for the insurance
(bar the last three years '78-'80, but of those we only have some 10
cars in total here) so the data have mostly become obsolete, but it's
a nice source of information... ;-)

You've got a hardtop You say. Well, the real difference between the 
Mk1/Mk2 hardtop and the Mk3 hardtop is in the fastening hardware so 
my guess is that when You've found the missing hardware (of the proper
type!) it'l be easy for You to use it. The B-post capping on the Mk1
changed when hardtop became an option so You'll have to check that 
You have the proper capping, OR force the hard top in place on the 
top of the B-posts. The rear window seal is an ordinary rubber seal, 
more or less like the seal used on the wind screen. My opinion is 
that any rubber windscreen seal could be cut to length and used. 
The problem is usually the glass. They are hard to come by, they say.

BFN
/Odd

Peter Ficklin skrev:
> Odd,
>   My commission # on my '64 Spit is FC18225L. According to the
> information above, it's really a '63 that was sold and originally 
> titled in '64.  Where do you find this sort of info out?  Is this 
> throught the BMHT somehow?  I'll have to see if I can get the state 
> agency to change that for me on my title.  What kind of "official" 
> info do I need to present them with.  I've read about this sort of 
> thing on the list quite a bit, but now, I gotta deal with it myself. 
> Anyway, thanks for your note of explaination, and bringing these 
> numbers up!  I'll have to get Joe to change the info I gave him in 
> his Spit Database.
> 
>   I also have an original steel hardtop, and it appears to fit OK,
> except I don't have the mounting hardware, or the rear glass seal 
> for it. It's kinda low on the priority list right now, with the 
> restorations underway. Thanks again,
> Peter Ficklin
> '63 Spit - formerly '64
> '68 Spit - I think!


Odd Hedberg wrote:
> >
> > Hi Lewis (and the rest of You gang...),
> >
> > The Spitfire 4 (aka Mk1) was introduced in October of '62. They
> > had made ~1524 of them when the Year ended. All of them with only
> > the detachable stick and canvas type soft tops. In September of
> > '63 the two options of Hardtop and Overdrive was added to the list
> > of optional extras, for customers ordering their cars in Britain.
> > They probably didn't take delivery of the cars until late in '63
> > or possibly early '64. At the end of '63 the Comm No was FC22664,
> > so there You have it. What's Your Comm No?

-- 
Odd Hedberg
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S-74236 Östhammar    International liaison secretary,
Sweden               Triumph Club of Sweden
                    '70 Spitfire Mk3 FD82497LO Signal Red
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