Joe...
can we say, "political correctness" here... in that complaint??
Joe... I'm with you... if the subject is not of interest, I delete
it... And you gave plenty of warning of the content... I would rather
recieve a joke (and decide whether or not to fully read it) than to not
receive it at all... and miss a chance to laugh...
If for some distorted reason... you are convinced that it is
unappropriate to send jokes to the Triumph Group... for which you and I
are "members"... and by extension... friends... (though we've never met
nor exchanged words) ... then PLEASE put me in your address book and
forward me any jokes that YOU find funny...
Thanks again for the joke... and bravo on your defense statement.
Justin
jmwagner@greenheart.com
Joseph Schneider wrote:
>
> >I always find it distinctly un-charming when one professional maligns
> >another.
>
> then you must not enjoy deposing or cross examining in medical malpractice
> cases- I've been an expert reviewer and even been deposed a few times, the
> plaintiff's attorneys are as uncharming as I could imagine when they go
> after defendants
>
> >
> >Perhaps we should all circulate some jokes about surgeons taking off the
> >wrong leg or leaving sponges in an incision? How about psychiatrists
> >who have sex with their dependent patients? Not so funny perhaps?
>
> first of all, I cannot verify this, but this was sent to me as coming from
> the Alameda District Attorney's "Point of View", I presume a periodical
> publication, and I may be naiive, but I initially assumed a true story, not
> a joke
> second, you don't have to circulate this kind of stuff about physicians,
> the newspapers (and the California Board of Medical Quality Assurance for
> those of us with California licenses) do it all the time and they should, I
> believe surgeons who are careless and psychiatrists who have sex with
> patients should get suspended- however, I was recently speechless when I
> read something in the Chicago Tribune about lawyers (in the US) arguing
> their right to have sexual relationships with clients, no less than Melvin
> Belli argued had that it was his right- what do you suppose would happen if
> the psychiatrists argued similarly?
> >
> >On another level, I have refrained from sending this to the whole series
> >of lists that you abused. What the heck does this have to do with
> >Triumphs, for example.
>
> I am in general agreement the list should contain information pertinent to
> the interest of the list subscribers and you'll note I titled this lawyer
> story (by the way, initially received from an economist friend, not another
> physician) so that people without an interest wouldn't have to read the
> message- I probably read 5% of the triumph messages because there is a lot
> of redundancy, the topics listed for many individual messages aren't of
> immediate interest to me, and I don't have time for 100 messages a day
> I also apologized for non-topical content of my message- I've been on this
> list for a couple years, don't think I've sent anything else non-topical
> and I've never engaged in any of the flame wars- I just want to make my
> Spitfire run better and help others when possible
>
> >
> >No reply is necessary or invited.
> >
> any message sent on any of the half dozen or so lists to which I've ever
> subscribed is an implicit invitation for a reply
>
> my friends and acquaintances in Canada (including two vascular surgeons at
> U of Toronto and another at East Toronto General) pay malpractice premiums
> that are less than 10% of mine, I believe it's because plaintiffs'
> attorneys are predators in this country
> I've seen the way ridiculous malpractice suits which never get to court or
> result in finding for the defendants nevertheless disrupt physicians' lives
> in this country, but I admit we all must share some of the blame for the
> system we have, rent "The Verdict" if you haven't seen it, the lawyers and
> the physicians were concerned about winning and losing, the only person who
> asked "Did we do wrong?" was the bishop of the (Catholic) hospitals diocese
>
> since you appear to have elected not to send your message to the entire
> list, I will return the serve
>
> all the best
> Joe
>
> Joseph R Schneider, MD, PhD
> Associate Professor of Surgery, Northwestern University Medical School
> 100 Burch, Evanston Hospital, 2650 Ridge Ave, Evanston, IL 60201
> voice: (847) 570-2565 fax: (847) 570-2899 e-mail: joe-schneider@nwu.edu
> world wide web page: http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~jschneid/JRS.HTML
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