To: | triumphs@Autox.Team.Net, british-cars@Autox.Team.Net |
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Subject: | [O-T] Re: TRF site |
From: | "\"Mr. Mike\" Passaretti" <passaretti@sol.med.ge.com> |
Date: | Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:17:00 -0500 |
Cc: | Doug Srock <dsrock@oncompsys.com> |
References: | <199707210125.VAA07421@ds2.ncweb.com><33D2EC00.727C@oncompsys.com> |
What follows is heavily off-topic and MHO, and should be taken with apropriate measures of salt. >>>>> "Doug" == Doug Srock <dsrock@oncompsys.com> writes: Doug> Dave, So far 4 people have bitched about all four Doug> colors. Are you using an older version of Netscape Doug> too? Doug> I am writing the site to be compliant with Doug> Netscape 3. I would submit that you should be writing to either HTML 3.2 or to the proposed HTML 4.0 instead. Not everyone in the world (particulary in the world of people who like creaky, quirky, old hardware like british cars and Amigas) has the newest nifty browser or computer technology. And not everyone is running (or is capable of running) one of the "big two" browsers either. [From another message Message-ID: <33D30023.541D@oncompsys.com>] Doug> The TRF site will not be in Black & White. I don't think that's what anyone wants. I don't know what other people's comments on the colors are, but I'm guessing that they range from "hard to read" or "annoying" to "ugly". They usually do. Graphical design is hard, and you never please everyone. On the technical side, however, "ivory" is not one of the 16 color names defined by the HTML spec, and you might be better off with an sRGB couplet there... Doug> If you or anyone else is using an older Doug> version of the Netscape Browser or a Microsoft Doug> Product, you may not see all of the site correctly. Doug> And you'll miss some really good stuff. I, for one, will be quite put off if TRF chooses to put form ahead of substance in their web presence. More than half of the Java Applets (for instance) I waste time downloading are useless and provide me with no additional functionality or information. Meanwhile, fully two thirds of the sites I have visited recently are impossible to navigate without image loading turned on, and provide no text alternatives. Before anyone makes snide comments about 14.4 modems, I'm direct on the net on a wide pipe, I just hate waiting for images, especially when they provide me with nothing but pretty buttons that could have been simple anchors with labels. Why does everyone love imagemaps and hate the "ALT" tag? Now, if you're going to provide a real-time database engine with inventory checking and a Java front-end calculator to manage your shipping invoice, there might be a case to be made for that over, say, a FORMS based approach. Just please don't do the "scrolling banner" thing just for the heck of it, especially if the information isn't available elsewhere in a more basic form... -MM P.S. As this is non-britcars related, I will move all further discussion off the list unless it becomes relevant again... |
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