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Re[2]: PERTRONIX Ignitor GT6/Spit

To: Mike_A_Gendimenico@ccm.sc.intel.com, triumphs@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re[2]: PERTRONIX Ignitor GT6/Spit
From: Richard Ceraldi-ERC004 <Richard_Ceraldi-ERC004@email.mot.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 9:51:09 -0600
Cc: rgb@exact.com
MIke,
I am currently testing a prototype Roger Bolick had made by Pertronix on my 
71 GT6 MKIII. We are tweaking the placement of the unit as the prototype 
required resetting the timing (12 deg) so it was not a direct swap out as it 
is on the TR6 model.
    One thing I do like about this unit is it all fits under the distributer 
cap and fastens down where the points used to go. The wires come with a 
grommet that fits the notch on the side of the distrib. so when the cap is 
on everything looks proper. No additional boxes or drilling to the firewall 
or un-original looking bits. 
    I will probably run it on my trip to New Orleans on the 22nd. Once the 
position gets corrected and wire lenghts/end connectors get tweaked it will 
be a great product. Be sure to keep in touch with Roger (rgb@exact.com) on 
this one as the "regular" outlets for Ignitors have no clue about GT6 units. 
If they can't sell a million thay are not interested. He has also lined up a 
unit for the Delco Spitfire distributer as well that is currently running on 
a daily driver belonging to  Brian at bbyrd@ixc-comm.net. 
Regards,
Richard Ceraldi 
71 GT6 MKIII KF166L
Austin TX
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To: triumphs@autox.team.net@INTERNET
From: Mike_A_Gendimenico@ccm.sc.intel.com*RFC-822*@INTERNET on Fri, Mar 7, 
1997 8:20 PM
Subject: Re[2]: PERTRONIX Ignitor


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Do they make one for the GT6 Delco distributors yet??   From what I've heard,
 
these are much better than the Crane/allison units.  Two pieces under the 
cap 
and two wires to the coil.  The dealer I talked to sells both brands and 
said he
gets almost zero returns on the Pertronix unit.  He gets a lot of returns on 
the
Crane units, the connectors and wiring look pretty flimsy and the black box 
is a
common failure.  If I ever get a TR6 I'll look you up Roger!

Mike




>Does anybody have any experience with a "Pertronix Ignitior"?

I provided the factory with the distributor out of my '70 TR6 
for porting their module to the TR6.  The was an OEM unit with 
dual vacuum advance/retard units, the most complicated of the 
TR6 production run.

Interesting aside, I had attempted to purchase one for the TR6 
advertised in another "major" vendor's catalog.  Upon contacting
the factory I was told "THAT kit will not work properly in the TR6", 
though it physically fits...  The factory catalog does not list the 
Lucas 22D distributor in the application list for that kit...

Hence started my quest to obtain a unit for the TR6.

It does fit entirely inside the distributor, works with and without
a ballast resistor, and greatly helps the starting and high end spark. 
The greatest advantage to the EI modules is being immune to the wobble 
of the cam shaft due to bushing wear, immune to cam wear, and immune to 
breaker plate pivot point wear.  These are subtle problems that plague 
all the TR6's with more than 50k miles.  Impossible to isolate with 
normal instruments, but cause a host of run-time erratic timing problems 
that prevent the engine from running properly.

The kit you want is LU-166C, this has the clip on the cam-rider 
that allows for the variation of cam size problem we encountered.
The factory recommends using the stock coil for most stock applications, 
the transistor switched design increases the efficiency of the coil for 
a hotter spark over the RPM range.  Looking at BRIGHTNESS and CRISPNESS 
of the timing light at idle is a sure indicator.  I run a 0.035 plug
gap with the Ignitor installed.  The 11 to 1 compression engine uses 
the Ignitor with Lucas Sport Coil.

Now for the kicker:

1.  I currently have a prototype unit for the Spitfire in test 
2.  I currently have a prototype unit for the GT6 in test
3.  I have a case of TR6 Ignitors (LU-166C), $60 plus $3 shipping in US.

Roger Bolick          (this is a hobby, don't expect much service) 
7205 Valburn Dr.
Austin, TX 78731
512-794-9567

Based on experience so far, I estimate 1 of 3 cars have ignition problems, 
wrong/weak coil, coil backwards, vacuum hooked up wrong, etc.  If something 
else is fouled up, don't expect this to magically fix it!

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