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My MK1A was titled as 66/67. I called it a '67 until I learned better.
Will - 382001570
Tigers@embarqmail.com
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 10:55=E2=80=AFAM Cheers, Mark the Great via Tigers =
<
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
> RE dating. I've mentioned this before. A local bank was financing MG's an=
d
> Heley's for a local dealer. At the end of the Sept. ( or thereabouts ) t=
he
> dealer would change all the in stock inventory to the next model year. Th=
e
> bank was notified and it would also change the model year for the invento=
ry
> they had financed. Thus, with a stroke of a pen, the new models had
> arrived.
> I'm guessing something similar happened with the Tigers.
>
> In a message dated 2/20/2025 10:17:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> tigers@autox.team.net writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo Smit <tsmit@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> The last mk1A was B382002706 and it was built right at the end of
> December 1966. They had already started Mk2 production at that point (in
> September? I forget, offhand) and those last 12 Mk1A were probably bodies
> that had gotten put to the side when they needed to get the Mk2 productio=
n
> going. Then someone realized that those bodies represented sunk cost and
> finishing them would put cash on the table.
> Anyway, the =E2=80=982400 range of Mk1A production was early enough in th=
e year
> that some of them could have been shipped to the US and sold before the e=
nd
> of 1966.
> Cheers,
> Theo
>
> On Aug 16, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Another data point: According to TBON, my Tiger was assembled in the lat=
e
> summer of '66. It was first sold in NY in Feb of '67, so it has always
> been registered as a '67.
>
> Stu
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/67. This characterization probably
> came from the dealer. It was common back then to give a foreign car the
> benefit of the doubt when registering, assuming that the same car model
> would be produced the next year. In my case this was clearly an error
> because the MKII, introduced in '67, was not the same car as was produced
> in '66.
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers@embarqmail.com
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registration date. Have
> a 1942 Jeep that stated it was 1950.
>
> David Franchi
>
> On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser <
> rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 1st =E2=80=93 no idea on the brass tag =E2=80=93 one would think it shoul=
d have something
> stamped on it.
>
>
>
> Drmayf
>
> Yes the vin tag is near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.
>
>
>
> I have been told that back in the day Tigers had registration dates
> according to year they were 1st register in the states not by the year
> the Tiger was built.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Larry
> Mayfield
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM
> *To:* 'Jay Laifman' <jay.laifman@gmail.com>; 'Tiger's Den' <
> tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT
>
>
>
> I don=E2=80=99t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date the car=
is
> advertised as a 1966 does not go with the vin number. The B382 is for a
> Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also. My 1966 (registered in Ventura CA
> in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471136 and I am the
> second owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca in Jan 1967 seco=
nd
> hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed hands and has alwa=
ys
> been registered). This car also has the long shifter as well which I thi=
nk
> does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than me could check that ou=
t.
> .
>
>
>
> Interesting that a small brass tag can generate some curiosity, eh?
>
>
>
> Drmayf aka Lawrence
>
>
>
>
> <image003.png>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net
> <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Jay Laifman
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM
> *To:* Tiger's Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT
>
>
>
> Watching the Tiger on BAT? The owner says it had a brass tag on the fuel
> line from new and he and his dad have never known what it was. Anyone kn=
ow?
>
>
>
>
> <image004.png>
>
>
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-50-2/
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small=
">My MK1A was titled as 66/67.=C2=A0 I called it a '67 until I learned =
better.</div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_s=
ignature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001=
570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">Tigers@e=
mbarqmail.com</a></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote =
gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 20=
, 2025 at 10:55=E2=80=AFAM Cheers, Mark the Great via Tigers <<a href=
=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-=
size:16px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-weight:bo=
ld">RE dating. I've mentioned this before. A local bank was financing M=
G's and Heley's for a local dealer.=C2=A0 At the end of the Sept. (=
or thereabouts ) the dealer would change all the in stock inventory to the=
next model year. The bank was notified and it would also change the model =
year for the inventory they had financed. Thus, with a stroke of a pen, the=
new models had arrived. </span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-=
size:16px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-weight:bo=
ld">I'm guessing something similar happened with the Tigers.<br></span>=
</div>
<br>In a message dated 2/20/2025 10:17:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a href=
=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</=
a> writes:
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px solid=
blue">
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:"times new roman","new york",=
times,serif;font-size:16px">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyahoo_quoted_034071=
0124">
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
<div>On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo Smit <<a href=
=3D"mailto:tsmit@shaw.ca"; target=3D"_blank">tsmit@shaw.ca</a>> wrote:</d=
iv>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The last mk1A was B382002706 and it was built right at the=
end of =C2=A0December 1966. They had already started Mk2 production at tha=
t point (in September? I forget, offhand) and those last 12 Mk1A were proba=
bly bodies that had gotten put to the side when they needed to get the Mk2 =
production going. Then someone realized that those bodies represented sunk =
cost and finishing them would put cash on the table.=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Anyway, the =E2=80=982400 range of Mk1A production was ear=
ly enough in the year that some of them could have been shipped to the US a=
nd sold before the end of 1966.=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Theo</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On Aug 16, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Stu <<a href=3D"mailto:sabre2tg=
r@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sabre2tgr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></=
blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:small">Another data point:=C2=A0 According to TBON,=
my Tiger was assembled in the late summer of '66.=C2=A0 It was first s=
old in NY in Feb of '67, so it has always been registered as a '67.=
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small">=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small">Stu</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tige=
rs <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:small">My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/67.=C2=
=A0 This characterization probably came from the dealer.=C2=A0 It was commo=
n back then to give a foreign car the benefit of the doubt when registering=
, assuming that the same car model would be produced the next year.=C2=A0 I=
n my case this was clearly an error because the MKII, introduced in '67=
, was not the same car as was produced in '66.</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small">=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.c=
om" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@embarqmai=
l.com</a></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via =
Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopene=
r noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registra=
tion date. Have a 1942 Jeep that stated it was 1950.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>
David Franchi</div>
</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-241=
0958755070881963m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yahoo_quoted_4450991725">
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:r=
gb(38,40,42)">
<div>On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser <<a href=
=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-241=
0958755070881963m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784">
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">1<sup>st</sup> =E2=
=80=93 no idea on the brass tag =E2=80=93 one would think it should have so=
mething stamped on it.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">Drmayf</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">Yes the vin tag is=
near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">I have been told t=
hat back in the day Tigers had registration dates according to year they we=
re 1<sup>st</sup> register in the states not by the year the Tiger was buil=
t.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">Ron Fraser</span><=
/p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-241=
0958755070881963m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt53683">
<div>
<div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;b=
order-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"=
>
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">From:</spa=
n></strong><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> Tigers &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <stron=
g>On Behalf Of </strong>Larry Mayfield<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</str=
ong> Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong>=
'Jay Laifman' <<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; rel=3D"=
nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;; 'Tiger's Den' <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.ne=
t</a>><br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Tag on T=
iger on BAT</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)">I don=E2=80=99t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date the ca=
r is advertised as a 1966 does not go with the vin number.=C2=A0 The B382 i=
s=C2=A0 for a Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also.=C2=A0 My 1966 (registe=
red in Ventura CA in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471136 =
and I am the second owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca in Ja=
n 1967 second hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed hands =
and has always been registered).=C2=A0 This car also has the long shifter a=
s well which I think does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than me =
could check that out. . </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)">Interesting that a small brass tag can generate some curiosity, eh? </sp=
an></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)">Drmayf aka Lawrence</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div><image003.png></div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">From:</spa=
n></strong><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> Tigers [<=
a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener no=
referrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team=
.net</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Jay Laifman<br clear=3D"none"><stro=
ng>Sent:</strong> Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong=
>To:</strong> Tiger's Den <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">tiger=
s@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> [Tiger=
s] Tag on Tiger on BAT</span></p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-241=
0958755070881963m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt19031">
<p>Watching the Tiger on BAT?=C2=A0 The owner says it had a brass tag on th=
e fuel line from new and he and his dad have never known what it was.=C2=A0=
Anyone know?</p>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div><image004.png></div>
</div>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
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el=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-50-2/</a></p>
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<p>=C2=A0</p>
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