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Wow Lynn! 565HP AND AC, wow.
Tell us more about your AC setup.
TIA,
Gary
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> On 07/20/2023 2:36 PM PDT Cars via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full air conditioning and neve=
r get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree heat. Can do it all day.
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> Lynn
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> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of M Lafayette via=
Tigers
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM
> To: atwittsend@verizon.net; tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143
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> In speaking to a rep. from a fan company years ago, he mentioned that a "=
puller" elect. fan would cool either 2 or 3 times (can't remember the numbe=
r) as well as a "pusher" elect. fan. Makes sense since modern cars seems t=
o use puller elctric's. Has anyone tried just one good elect. puller on a =
Tiger?
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> Mark
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> In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@aut=
ox.team.net mailto:tigers@autox.team.net writes:
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> > As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite fan (in=
itial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to have succ=
ess with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan. I can=
see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical puller fan but=
not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan. Tha=
t said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it create=
s a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without smoke to =
see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that blow over - =
and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the yard - and not=
another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane to the itsel=
f as others have not had the same issue with the recommended fans and a pus=
her fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smart=
er than that) but does the possibility exist that the fan design was for co=
unter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the rotation of th=
e water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the same design. The g=
ood news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy the ride.
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> > On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers wrote:
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> > > Tiger Running hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying bab=
y steps.
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> > > After about a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with th=
e hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps. I h=
ave been driving the car during the last year only on back roads with not m=
uch chance of traffic lights and traffic. I live in rural NC outside of Pi=
nehurst.
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> > > Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied from MS Wo=
rd, so please ignore.=20
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> > > 1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss blac=
k radiator overflow tank, missing from car.
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> > > 2. Purchased and installed overflow tank straps from Alexander=
Washick alw6464@gmail.com mailto:alw6464@gmail.com which are powder coated=
, missing from car.
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> > > 1. Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from Robert St=
raghan <rgstraghan@yahoo.ca> mailto:rgstraghan@yahoo.ca scuffed, primed and=
painted semi gloss black
> > > 2. Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from Don Lutjen <dl=
utjen55@gmail.com> mailto:dlutjen55@gmail.com scuffed, primed and painted s=
emi gloss black.
> > > 3. Purchased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side=
tank radiator from Griffin Radiator.
> > > 4. Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painte=
d Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to li=
ne up.
> > > 5. Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=
=9D from radiator.
> > > 6. Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.
> > > 7. Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radi=
ator hoses.
> > > 8. New top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit =
taller radiator.
> > > 9. New fan belt.
> > > 10. Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would n=
ot fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracket to f=
it my taller radiator. Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi gloss =
black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.
> > > 11. Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180. Could not find 170 deg=
ree. If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree thermostat,=
please forward.
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> > > So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up =
a custom. Other changes could make is front air dam and block front cross =
member to bottom of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how thin=
gs play out this summer.
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> > > Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching the t=
emperature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and go traffic. Goal wa=
s to keep the temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees whether =
driving or at idle.
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> > > The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 af=
ter trial period of 6 months or so.
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> > > The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased the SS wat=
er pump and installed it and drove for a month or so. Install error on the=
Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned out to be the problem. The SS water =
pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the =
Flow Kooler with a new gasket.
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> > > 1. Installed a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in th=
e garage and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay. Not=
much help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go tra=
ffic.
> > > 2. Built and installed a custom fan shroud. Remember I have an overs=
ize Griffin radiator. This change resulted in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3=
degrees. Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.
> > > 3. I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot lin=
e (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.
> > > 1. The rule of thumb they recommend: Electric fans of either the pus=
her or puller type should be that the electric fan should cover 70% of the =
radiator surface. Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.
> > > 2. Small block V-8 engines recommendation is 3,000 CFM.
> > > 3. Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met these specifications.
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> > > FLX-105391 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391
> > > Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, =
Black, 20 amps,=20
> > > (Mfr. #: 239)
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> > > 1. Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite whi=
ch is adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on. Off is 10 degrees f=
rom on temp and is NOT adjustable.
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> > > FLX-121281 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281
> > > Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit
> > > (Mfr. #: 33095)
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> > > e. Also purchased temperature probe adapter and installed =
in the upper radiator hose.
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> > > FLX-107078 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078
> > > Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in.=
NPT Ports, Includes One Plug, Each
> > > (Mfr. #: 32082)
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> > > The idea was to run the stock temp gauge probe into the adapter a=
nd keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to verify =
stock gauge was pretty accurate. The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle the =
stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the st=
ock gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place which I believe is accura=
te.
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> > > f. Goal still not achieved
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> > > 1. Flex - a - Lite then offered the following advice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=
=9CYou typically only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan a=
nd just want extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much=
smaller electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric=
fan will probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D The two smaller electri=
c fans I used did not work in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan=
in conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work in my particula=
r car.
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> > > Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new gask=
et.
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> > > 1. Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D =
spacer. Finally success! Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times rega=
rdless of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So, in my case, the m=
echanical fan in conjunction with the electric fan was causing air flow dis=
ruption.
> > > 2. The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees w=
ith 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and less. About 183 in tempe=
ratures above 90, so not a issue. I might try out the 180 degree thermostat=
at some point, 170 if I could find one might be optimum for my car. The o=
nly down side for me is the electric fan is noisy when running and volts on=
volt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when the fan comes on.. The =
battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amps. This has not been a =
issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and not the generator so w=
ith generator cars, this might be an issue. Now I cannot hear the electric=
fan at all inside the car but outside, it is noisy when running. Headers,=
2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers. I wonder why I c=
annot hear fan running.
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> > > So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lo=
wer shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.
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> > > Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep trying =
different approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humidity =
of the area you reside.
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> > > What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and what =
would I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work involved.
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> > > Yahoo formatting again.
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> > > Test temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.
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> > > 1. Ensure radiator in good working order.
> > > 2. Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.
> > > 3. Install horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to in=
stall.
> > > 4. Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my c=
ase, custom made. Possible making of the lower portion of the shroud as we=
ll, which I have not done.
> > > 5. Undersize water pump pulley and at same time, try a different mech=
anical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.
> > > 6. Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680, 2-3 degrees improvement in my cas=
e
> > > 7. New Griffin radiator. They sell a package for the Tiger with radi=
ator, electric fan and shroud. Remember my radiator is a custom oversize r=
adiator install by previous owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package=
would not work in my case but I have installed a new custom Griffin radiat=
or.
> > > 8. Remove mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan that covers =
70% of your radiator surface and moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended f=
or small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order and step=
9 will not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, your call.
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> > > So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lo=
wer shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met my =
goal of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in all driving c=
onditions. I hope my trials and findings will help you moving forward. An=
y questions, please ask.
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> > > Regards
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> > > Joel Martin
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> > > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 09:09:34 PM EDT, tigers-request@autox.=
team.net mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net <tigers-request@autox.team.ne=
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> > > 1. Re: Cooling Fan (LARRY PAULICK)
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> > > Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that describes with photogra=
phs what I did for the full fans shroud.
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> > > TigersUnited.com http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pa=
ulickShroud.asp
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> > > tigersunited.com http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pa=
ulickShroud.asp
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> > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > BTW, Tigers United has a lot of great articles covering the variety o=
f subjects. You might want to check it out. http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com> wro=
te: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > >=20
> > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp
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> > > > Thanks for all of the replies. I have a mostly stock engine (with =
Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator. I have a temperature gaug=
e mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 at id=
le but I haven't had any problems while driving the car. My problem right =
now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature was over =
100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine off it pu=
ked some water onto the floor. The temp gauge was showing around 250 degre=
es at that point. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pauli=
ckShroud.asp
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> > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp
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> > > > I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some=
horn opening covers today. I will also look at blocking off the area belo=
w the radiator. I have read all of the articles that people have referred =
to and I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds. So I was just lo=
oking for pusher fan recommendations at this point. http://tigersunited.=
com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp
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> > > > The best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather. ht=
tp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp
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> > > > Thanks, http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickSh=
roud.asp
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> > > > Joe Brown http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
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> > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp
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> > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <t=
igers@autox.team.net> wrote: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud=
/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the s=
tock tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air c=
omes through the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through =
the radiator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your =
own radiator. It works. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt=
-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp
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> > > > > > On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com=
> wrote: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.as=
p
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> > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
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> > > > > > I think michael hit the nail on the head. first need to know i=
s it overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed? http://tigers=
united.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped. =
and spal is the go to brand. still need the horn holes and gap between c=
ross member and rad blocked. cardboard and zip ties does the trick quickly=
and can be replaced with a more permanent solution later if you want. als=
o need a fan shroud. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paul=
ickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i =
have a small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley. that creates enough pu=
ll through the radiator at idle. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickSh=
roud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
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> > > > > > if its overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another probl=
em entirely and there are a variety of other things to check. http://tigers=
united.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
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> > > > > > in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain condition=
s (slowing down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a par=
ticular altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem. there are=
a bunch of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shield, b=
ut i've only suffered from it once. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/Paulic=
kShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues i=
n the tiger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hos=
e. at least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with th=
ermostat or water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, eve=
n how blocked the radiator is. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShro=
ud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
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> > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
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> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <tiger=
s@autox.team.net> wrote: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-=
PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > > I=E2=80=99ve been reading about cooling issues with tigers fo=
r more that a decade (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes=
, pusher fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on this i=
ssue. Just check STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think the fi=
rst place to start is knowing what the actual engine team really is. We all=
know that the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as a dye=
d in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford e=
ngines can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not necessarily a bad =
thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not =
really sure is does anything. My original guage can show 225-230 on a hot =
day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out fluid. The design=
of the should is an issue. It lets hot air from the engine compartment to =
get under the radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be don=
e. However, on a hot low humidity day.. well good luck. JMO http://tigersun=
ited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickSh=
roud.asp
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> > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.net=
com.com> wrote: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickSh=
roud.asp
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> > > > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
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> > > > > > > > The article includes several suggestions. http://tigersunit=
ed.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
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> > > > > > > > One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan=
shroud at the bottom. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pa=
ulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
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> > > > > > > > A list member offered a piece he fabricated. http://tigersu=
nited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
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> > > > > > > > I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to=
fit it later this year. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-=
PaulickShroud.asp
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> > > > > > > > http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
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> > > > > > > > Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort. htt=
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Texas. I've read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I wil=
l make some of the suggested modifications. They listed two different push=
er electric fans in the article but both of them are no longer available. h=
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Wow Lynn! 565HP AND AC, wow.
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Tell us more about your AC setup.
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On 07/20/2023 2:36 PM PDT Cars via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">With a proper full shroud it would work well.&nb=
sp; Probably be enough with Horn block offs.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full =
air conditioning and never get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree =
heat. Can do it all day.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers <tigers-bounce=
s@autox.team.net> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>M Lafayette via Tigers<b=
r><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM<br><strong>To:</s=
trong> atwittsend@verizon.net; tigers@autox.team.net<br><strong>Subject:</s=
trong> Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143</p>=20
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; font=
-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">In speaking to a rep. from a fa=
n company years ago, he mentioned that a "puller" elect. fan would cool eit=
her 2 or 3 times (can't remember the number) as well as a "pusher" elect. f=
an. Makes sense since modern cars seems to use puller elctric's. =
; Has anyone tried just one good elect. puller on a Tiger?</span></strong><=
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tern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";> tigers@autox.=
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<p>As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite=
fan (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to h=
ave success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan=
. I can see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical p=
uller fan but not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pu=
sher fan. That said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder=
if it creates a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. With=
out smoke to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that=
blow over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the y=
ard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane=
to the itself as others have not had the same issue with the recommended f=
ans and a pusher fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed backwards (you s=
een way smarter than that) but does the possibility exist that the fan desi=
gn was for counter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the r=
otation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the same =
design. The good news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy t=
he ride.</p>=20
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font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Tiger Running hot=
=E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby steps.</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">After about a yea=
r of struggling with car running hot at idle with the hood down, Hot to me =
is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps. I have been driving t=
he car during the last year only on back roads with not much chance of traf=
fic lights and traffic. I live in rural NC outside of Pinehurst.</spa=
n></p>=20
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"> 1. Purchased =
and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss black radiator overflow tank, =
missing from car.</span></p>=20
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Purchased and installed overflow tank straps from <span class=3D"yiv1694449=
977ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg">Alexander Washick</span><span class=3D"yiv16=
94449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"> <a href=3D"mailto:alw6464@gmail.com"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">alw6464@gmail.com</a> which are powder co=
ated</span>, missing from car.</span></p>=20
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<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and installed undersize water pump pulley from </span></span><span c=
lass=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg"><span style=3D"font-size: =
12.0pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;">Robert Straghan</span></span><span =
class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0=
pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;"> <a href=3D"mailto:rgstraghan@yaho=
o.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><rgstraghan@yahoo.ca></a> sc=
uffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></span></li>=20
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list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and installed horn hole block plates from </span></span><span class=
=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0=
pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;">Don Lutjen</span></span><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Garamond',serif;"> <a href=3D"mailto:dlutjen55@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><dlutjen55@gmail.com></a> scuffed, pr=
imed and painted semi gloss black.</span></span></li>=20
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list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tank radiat=
or from Griffin Radiator.</span></span></li>=20
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list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford dark =
blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to line up.</span=
></span></li>=20
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list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Mod=
ified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=9D from rad=
iator.</span></span></li>=20
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list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Mec=
hanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.</span></span=
></li>=20
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list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator hoses.<=
/span></span></li>=20
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list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">New=
top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit taller radia=
tor.</span></span></li>=20
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list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">New=
fan belt.</span></span></li>=20
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list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would not fit as I d=
id not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracket to fit my taller =
radiator. Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi gloss black =
=E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.</span></span></li>=20
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list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Ins=
talled 160 degree thermostat from 180. Could not find 170 degree.&nbs=
p; If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree thermostat, pl=
ease forward.</span></span></li>=20
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yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">So at this point I do not have a fan shro=
ud =E2=80=93 unless make up a custom. Other changes could make is fro=
nt air dam and block front cross member to bottom of radiator spacing but f=
or now I am going to see how things play out this summer.</span></span></p>=
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yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"> Ok after all the above I was still =
not satisfied with watching the temperature gauge increase while at idle or=
in stop and go traffic. Goal was to keep the temperature at ALL time=
s between 180 and 190 degrees whether driving or at idle.</span></span></p>=
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<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"> The following changes have been mad=
e since the above changes 1-13 after trial period of 6 months or so.</span>=
</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"> The Flow Kooler water pump started =
leaking so I purchased the SS water pump and installed it and drove for a m=
onth or so. Install error on the Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned=
out to be the problem. The SS water pump actually raised idle temps =
2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new gasket.</=
span></span></p>=20
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l3 level1 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Ins=
talled a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in the garage and=
wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay. Not much h=
elp or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go traffic.</=
span></span></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l3 level1 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Bui=
lt and installed a custom fan shroud. Remember I have an oversize Gri=
ffin radiator. This change resulted in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3 d=
egrees. Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.</span></sp=
an></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l3 level1 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">I t=
hen discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line (multiple =
times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.</span></span></li>=20
</ol>=20
<ol start=3D"3" type=3D"1">=20
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l3 level2 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Th=
e rule of thumb they recommend: Electric fans of either the pusher or=
puller type should be that the electric fan should cover 70% of the radiat=
or surface. Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.</span></span></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l3 level2 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Sm=
all block V-8 engines recommendation is 3,000 CFM.</span></span></li>=
=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l3 level2 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Fl=
ex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met these specifications.</span></span></l=
i>=20
</ol>=20
</ol>=20
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der=3D"0" width=3D"493" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">=20
<tbody>=20
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<td style=3D"width: 2.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=
=3D"3"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"> </p> </td>=20
<td style=3D"width: 367.25pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" va=
lign=3D"top" width=3D"490"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">=
<strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; c=
olor: black;"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-105391</s=
pan></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Aria=
l',sans-serif; color: black;"><br>Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, =
16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black, 20 amps, <br>(Mfr. #: 239) </span>=
</p> </td>=20
</tr>=20
</tbody>=20
</table>=20
<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"1">=20
<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"a">=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l0 level2 lfo3;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Al=
so purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite which is adjus=
table so you can set when the fan comes on. Off is 10 degrees from on=
temp and is NOT adjustable.</span></span></li>=20
</ol>=20
</ol>=20
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r=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">=20
<tbody>=20
<tr>=20
<td style=3D"width: 7.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=
=3D"10"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"> </p> </td>=20
<td style=3D"width: 148.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" val=
ign=3D"top" width=3D"198"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><=
strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; co=
lor: black;"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-121281</sp=
an></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial=
',sans-serif; color: black;"><br>Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-i=
n Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>(Mfr. #: 33095) </span></p> </td>=20
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</tbody>=20
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<div>=20
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif;"> e. =
Also purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in the upper radiato=
r hose.</span></span></p>=20
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r=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">=20
<tbody>=20
<tr>=20
<td style=3D"width: 7.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=
=3D"10"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"> </p> </td>=20
<td style=3D"width: 148.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" val=
ign=3D"top" width=3D"198"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><=
strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; co=
lor: black;"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-107078</sp=
an></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial=
',sans-serif; color: black;"><br>Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/=
2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT Ports, Includes One Plug, Each <br>(Mfr. #:=
32082) </span></p> </td>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"margin=
-left: .75in;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">The idea wa=
s to run the stock temp gauge probe into the adapte=
r and keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to veri=
fy stock gauge was pretty accurate. The =C2=BC NPT port would not han=
dle the stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms fo=
r the stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place which I believe i=
s accurate.</span></span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">  =
; f. Goal still not achieved</span=
></span></p>=20
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo4;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif; color: windowtext;">Flex - a - Lite then offered the following ad=
vice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9C</span></span><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; fon=
t-family: 'Garamond',serif;">You typically only need one or the other. If y=
ou have a mechanical fan and just want extra cooling in stop and go traffic=
, I suggest you use a much smaller electric fan. But using both a mechanica=
l and this bigger electric fan will probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=
=9D The two smaller electric fans I used did not work in my case, so =
advice about smaller electric fan in conjunction with mechanical water pump=
fan did not work in my particular car.</span></li>=20
</ol>=20
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"> <span style=
=3D"color: black;">Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump w=
ith new gasket.</span></span></p>=20
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">=20
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l2 level2 lfo5;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Tim=
es New Roman',serif; color: black;">Removed the mechanical fan from the wat=
er pump and the 1=E2=80=9D spacer. Finally success! Temp stays =
between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless of ambient temperature and traf=
fic conditions. So, in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with the =
electric fan was causing air flow disruption.</span></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l2 level2 lfo5;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Tim=
es New Roman',serif; color: black;"> The temp at speed above 35 mph, t=
he car runs around 176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degre=
es and less. About 183 in temperatures above 90, so not a issue. I mi=
ght try out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170 if I could find on=
e might be optimum for my car. The only down side for me is the elect=
ric fan is noisy when running and volts on volt gauge drops around =C2=BD -=
=C2=BE- volt when the fan comes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to=
fan drawing 20 amps. This has not been a issue with lights on or off. I ha=
ve a alternator and not the generator so with generator cars, this might be=
an issue. Now I cannot hear the electric fan <strong>at all</strong>=
inside the car but outside, it is noisy when running. Headers, 2.25"=
exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers. I wonder why I ca=
nnot hear fan running.</span></li>=20
</ol>=20
</ol>=20
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nb=
sp;So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower =
shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nb=
sp;Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep trying diff=
erent approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humidity of t=
he area you reside.</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nb=
sp;What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and what woul=
d I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work involved.</sp=
an></p>=20
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">Yahoo formatting again. </=
span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">Test temp gauge and sender=
to ensure reading properly.</span></p>=20
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<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Ensure radiator in good working order.</=
span></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 1=
60.</span></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Install horn block off plates, minimal c=
ost and about 1 hour to install.</span></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 d=
egrees improvement in my case, custom made. Possible making of the lo=
wer portion of the shroud as well, which I have not done.</span></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif; color: windowtext;">Undersize water pump pulley and at same time,=
try a different mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.=
</span></span></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif; color: windowtext;">Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680, </span></spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;">2-3 deg=
rees improvement in my case</span></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif; color: windowtext;">New Griffin radiator. They sell a packa=
ge for the Tiger with radiator, electric fan and shroud. Remember my =
radiator is a custom oversize radiator install by previous owner and the st=
ock Griffin radiator or package would not work in my case but I have instal=
led a new custom Griffin radiator.</span></span></li>=20
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif; color: windowtext;">Remove mechanical fan and install electric pu=
sher fan that covers 70% of your radiator surface </span></span><strong><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: windowtext;">and </span> </strong><sp=
an class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: windowtext;">moves 3,00=
0 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended for small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 co=
uld be in reverse order and step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the G=
riffin Tiger package, your call.</span></span></li>=20
</ol>=20
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nb=
sp;So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower =
shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met my goal=
of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in all driving condi=
tions. I hope my trials and findings will help you moving forward.&nb=
sp; Any questions, please ask.</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"> Regards</span></span></p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Joel Martin</span></span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Garamond',serif;">On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 09:09:34 PM EDT,=
<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noopener">tigers-request@autox.team.net</a> <a href=3D"mailto:tigers-reques=
t@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><tigers-request@aut=
ox.team.net></a> wrote:</span></p>=20
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f=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">tiger=
s@autox.team.net</a></span></p>=20
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f=3D"mailto:tigers-owner@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font=
-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;">than "Re: Contents of Tig=
ers digest..."</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
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sp; 1. Re: Cooling Fan (LARRY PAULICK)</span></p>=20
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nk" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <u><span style=3D"color: blue;">&l=
t;jbbrown1980@gmail.com></span></u> wrote:</span></a></span></p>=20
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t; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://=
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ank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;=
">Thanks for all of the replies. I have a mostly stock engine (with E=
delbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator. I have a temperature =
gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 a=
t idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the car. My probl=
em right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature =
was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine =
off it puked some water onto the floor. The temp gauge was showing ar=
ound 250 degrees at that point. </span></a></span></p>=20
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lank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none=
;">I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn=
opening covers today. I will also look at blocking off the area belo=
w the radiator. I have read all of the articles that people have refe=
rred to and I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds. So I w=
as just looking for pusher fan recommendations at this point. <=
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/tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none=
;">On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <<u>=
<span style=3D"color: blue;">tigers@autox.team.net</span></u>> wrote:</s=
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blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: non=
e;">I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock t=
iger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes t=
hrough the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the ra=
diator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your own ra=
diator. It works. </span></a></span></p>=20
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tp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <<u><span style=3D"col=
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it overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed? </span></a></sp=
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one;">a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped. =
and spal is the go to brand. still need the horn holes and gap =
between cross member and rad blocked. cardboard and zip ties does the=
trick quickly and can be replaced with a more permanent solution late=
r if you want. also need a fan shroud. </span></a></span></p>=20
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=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
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e a small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley. that creates enough =
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=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
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one;">in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions =
;(slowing down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a part=
icular altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem. there=
are a bunch of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shiel=
d, but i've only suffered from it once.</span></a></span></p>=20
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one;">one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the =
tiger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.&nbs=
p; at least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with the=
rmostat or water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, even=
how blocked the radiator is.</span></a></span></p>=20
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"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: n=
one;">On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <<u><span=
style=3D"color: blue;">tigers@autox.team.net</span></u>> wrote:</span><=
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tp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">I=E2=80=99ve been reading about cooling issues with tigers fo=
r more that a decade (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes=
, pusher fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on t=
his issue. Just check STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think t=
he first place to start is knowing what the actual engine team re=
ally is. We all know that the original temp guage can be off. The other thi=
ng is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine te=
mp. But, Ford engines can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not&nbs=
p;necessarily a bad thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had o=
ne. I=E2=80=99m not really sure is does anything. My original gua=
ge can show 225-230 on a hot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but nev=
er has pucked out fluid. The design of the should is an issue. It lets=
hot air from the engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many,=
=E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be done. However, on a hot low humid=
ity day.. well good luck. JMO</span> </a></span></p>=20
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=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
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=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;"> </span></a></span></p>=20
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ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">The article includes several suggestions.</span> </a></span></p>=
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ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shrou=
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"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
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"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">A list member offered a piece he fabricated.</span></a></span></p=
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"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
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"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit i=
t later this year.</span></a></span></p>=20
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"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
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ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</span></a=
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t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
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erif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickS=
hroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=
=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"><image0.jpeg><image1.j=
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ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">Sent from my iPhone</span></a></span></p>=20
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ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
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: 12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-s=
erif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickS=
hroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=
=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, J=
ay Laifman <<u><span style=3D"color: blue;">jay.laifman@gmail.com</span>=
</u>> wrote:</span></a></span></p>=20
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"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">Have you looked at this cooling suggestions? <u><span style=
=3D"color: blue;">http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-S=
teveLaifmanValance1.asp</span></u> </span></a></span></p>=20
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ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
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ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">It works great in Southern California heat.</span></a></span></p>=
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"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
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ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <<u><span st=
yle=3D"color: blue;">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</span></u>> wrote:</span></a>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
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"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.&nbs=
p; I've read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will mak=
e some of the suggested modifications. They listed two different push=
er electric fans in the article but both of them are no longer available. <=
/span></a></span></p>=20
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"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
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"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan? If so, wha=
t part numbers?</span></a></span></p>=20
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